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  • #38693
    Profile photo of Joe (G.W.N.S.)Joe (G.W.N.S.)
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    From a earlier M9/92FS Beretta Thread.

    Some have had a problem with inadvertently activating safety when manipulating slide during malfunction drills (hasn’t been a issue for me), but since like First Sergeant I only use it as a decker anyway I have considered having Allegheny Gun Works in Pennsylvania convert “FS” Safety to “G” Type Decock only, however I am glad I waited since Beretta has announced a “no gunsmith” replacement lever option. Will post a Thread when available.

    Beretta U.S.A. has released the M9A3 G Conversion Kit for $55.00.

    To clarify, “no gunsmith” in this context means no machine work needed which was previously the only way to modify a FS to G model.

    Someone familiar with their Berettas inner workings and is mechanically inclined should not have much difficulty with this install, but having a gunsmith install parts should be relatively inexpensive.

    The M9A3 G conversion kit allows for you to convert your standard F/FS series 92/96 or M9A3 to “G”, or decock only.

    This kit allows for the user to safely decock the hammer and returns the firearm immediately to firing condition upon releasing the levers.

    Compatible with all 92/96F to FS series pistols as well as M9, M9A1, and M9A3.

    Incompatible with 92SB series I and 92S series pistols.

    Gunsmith installation strongly recommended.

    G-Kit Instruction

    I am excited about this modification and will post a review once I get one.

    Unfortunately Beretta U.S.A. started with something like 300 parts kits to gauge interest.

    They sold out in one day!

    They supposedly have more parts available due to their M9A3 production, but we’ll see how long it takes them to package up some more kits.

    Either way since this is hardly a required change, just a preference, I can wait a little while longer.

    The only other thing on my Beretta wish list is the M9A3 factory threaded barrel.

    #38694
    Profile photo of BrigandActualBrigandActual
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    I didn’t see anything about 92A1 compatibility. Once again, the 92A1 is a great shooter, but shitty aftermarket support compared to the rest of the Beretta lineup.

    "Man is still the first weapon of war" - Field Marshal Montgomery

    Matt B - VA

    #38696
    Profile photo of Joe (G.W.N.S.)Joe (G.W.N.S.)
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    I didn’t see anything about 92A1 compatibility.

    While the 92A1 slide is somewhat different, it uses the same safety/decock lever as any other 92.

    I would contact Beretta support or you could read through this Beretta Forum Thread and see if it mentions this.

    #38701
    Profile photo of BrigandActualBrigandActual
    Participant

    I didn’t see anything about 92A1 compatibility.

    While the 92A1 slide is somewhat different, it uses the same safety/decock lever as any other 92.

    I would contact Beretta support or you could read through this Beretta Forum Thread and see if it mentions this.

    I did some digging through the forum, it seems that guys are installing it just fine onto the 92A1. I definitely think this is a worthy modification, though I may wait a bit. I was planning on sending my 92A1 off to Wilson Combat as a “retirement” gift for myself, and I don’t know if the WC safety lever would work with the new G kit.

    "Man is still the first weapon of war" - Field Marshal Montgomery

    Matt B - VA

    #38707
    Profile photo of First SergeantFirst Sergeant
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    I have been contemplating getting an M9 because I spent so much time with one while I was in. This mod just might push me to get one.

    Thanks for the heads up.

    FILO
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    #38708
    Profile photo of Joe (G.W.N.S.)Joe (G.W.N.S.)
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    I have been contemplating getting an M9 because I spent so much time with one while I was in.

    That’s why I got mine when I retired, had plenty of related gear and little interest in starting over with something else.

    #38761
    Profile photo of Barry SubelskySam Brady
    Participant

    I have never shot or owned the M-9. Yesterday a friend brought a Wilson modified M-9 over to my house. Without a doubt the smoothest double action trigger I have ever pulled. The modification of the safety is outstanding.
    I could owning and using one of these. The safety is a great modify to spring back to the firing position after decocking. It is very well done.
    Once again I learned something by being open minded. I think if you are going to carry one of these pistols, the modified de-cocker is a must have option.

    #38775
    Profile photo of Joe (G.W.N.S.)Joe (G.W.N.S.)
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    The M9/92 Series pistols are excellent pistols and a competent Gunsmith familiar with them can make them even better.

    Since Sam brings up Wilson’s work; which is excellent, here is some amplifying information.

    Wilson Combat started doing Beretta Custom Work a couple of years ago and offers a few retail offerings in cooperation with Beretta USA.

    Bill Wilson, owner of Wilson Combat, has teamed up with Beretta specialist Ernest Langdon for this new project. “I have been shooting the Beretta 92 series pistols for almost 30 years,” explained Langdon. Langdon runs Langdon Tactical Technology, an advanced handgun and rifle training facility. “I can honestly say that I can think of no one better than Wilson Combat to build custom parts and do custom work on your Beretta handguns.”

    And while this is the first time Wilson Combat is doing large-scale custom work on Beretta handguns, they are not new to the job.

    “The Model 92 is the only service pistol that I shoot as well as a 1911,” said Wilson. “The guys at Wilson Combat have customized several model 92s for me, so it just seemed natural for us to offer these services to our customers. Besides it created an economic reason to do some of the cool stuff I personally wanted.”

    Wilson Combat Beretta Custom Work

    Wilson Combat Accessories for Beretta 92/96

    My biggest problem with Wilson is due to it’s excellent reputation and popularity is the wait which can be substantial at times.

    An excellent alternative to Wilson is Josh at Allegheny Gun Works.

    He does excellent Beretta work and has a line of custom Beretta parts and can do anything you want.


    Full build-out 92 Frame-Safety Brigadier. It started life as a standard FS frame, and we converted it to an ambi frame-safety SAO with machine-cut checkering and our exclusive Speedbump modified trigger. The addition of Novak rear sights and a custom 10kt gold insert front round out the pistol.

    Allegheny Gun Works, LLC. is a Pennsylvania owned and operated gunsmith facility specializing in the repair and customizing of handguns and military-style weapons.

    We are THE factory recommended custom shop for Beretta 92 series pistols and offer a full compliment of exclusive modifications, parts and services for the same. While we at AGW are capable of completing most types of firearms work, we choose to limit our scope to modern handguns and popular fighting rifles to ensure that our products reflect the most up-to-date techniques and technology available in the industry.

    Joshua Rowe, owner and lead gunsmith at Allegheny Gun Works, is a US Air Force veteran with over 17 years of experience in the firearms industry. He has worked as a Small Arms Repairer for the DoD, served as Senior Armorer and assistant firearms instructor for the Baghdad Embassy Security Force (BESF) and as a Small Arms Repair Center (SASC) technician at Bagram Air Base, Afghanistan. He is a factory trained and certified armorer for many top firearms manufacturers such as Colt, FN, Glock, Smith & Wesson and Remington, and a fully certified master gunsmith and graduate of the Pennsylvania Gunsmith School in Avalon, PA.

    Allegheny Gun Works, LLC. (site is undergoing a revamp)

    Allegheny Gun Works facebook

    Josh would be my first choice to work on my Beretta.

    #38840
    Profile photo of Barry SubelskySam Brady
    Participant

    Forgive my atrocious grammar in my previous post!

    #38852
    Profile photo of Joe (G.W.N.S.)Joe (G.W.N.S.)
    Moderator

    Forgive my atrocious grammar in my previous post!

    No need, we all have those days.

    :good:

    #58263
    Profile photo of Joe (G.W.N.S.)Joe (G.W.N.S.)
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    So I finally ordered a conversion kit, while I was very interested in this modification the timing always seemed off. I would remember to order it and Beretta would be out of stock, then it would be off my radar when in stock. :unsure:

    I hope to install this today and will report back on how it went.

    Additionally it gives me a good excuse to get some shooting in since I always run at least 250 rounds through a firearm after any modification to ensure function.

    #58273
    Profile photo of Joe (G.W.N.S.)Joe (G.W.N.S.)
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    As you remove safety the only part you reuse is the firing pin plunger. Beretta included two of everything (springs and pins) except levers which is cool in case you lose one under pressure.

    One roll pin gave me problems with original safety removal, but decocker installed fairly trouble free. Patience and a steady hand are required, but shouldn’t be too much problem for the mechanically inclined.

    So I am the happy owner of Beretta M9 G.

    There have been some complaints about looks of right side decock lever. It isn’t as streamlined as right side stamped safety lever, but despite appearances it is actually slightly narrower.

    I feel function is far more important than any cosmetic concern, but I also don’t think it looks bad, just different.

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    #58280
    Profile photo of First SergeantFirst Sergeant
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    Nice.

    This completely fell of my radar also.

    FILO
    Signal out, can you identify.
    Je ne regrette rien...
    Klagt Nicht, Kämpft

    #58281
    Profile photo of Joe (G.W.N.S.)Joe (G.W.N.S.)
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    Yea I am extremely happy with this modification.

    Something overlooked by many regarding the Beretta M9/92 series pistol is the short-recoil delayed locking-block system. This makes the M9 one of the best platforms to host a sound suppressor. Requiring no booster or change of recoil springs when carefully choosing the correct suppressor.

    Combined with proper subsonic ammo it is as close to Hollywood db reduction as is possible, yet still have excellent stopping ability.

    So my next addition will be the Extended Threaded Barrel.

    – Caliber: 9 mm
    – 1/2×28 thread pitch
    – Length: 5″ (127mm)
    – External Finishing: Steel, matte
    – Internal Finishing: Chromed
    $199 with frequent sales available.

    #59409
    Profile photo of Joe (G.W.N.S.)Joe (G.W.N.S.)
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    A quick update on my “G” conversion on my M9 Beretta.

    I’ve put 450 rounds through it since installing conversion, performed flawlessly as expected!

    I couldn’t be more happy with this installation.

    Another thought…

    I have never shot or owned the M-9. Yesterday a friend brought a Wilson modified M-9 over to my house. Without a doubt the smoothest double action trigger I have ever pulled.

    My biggest problem with Wilson is due to it’s excellent reputation and popularity is the wait, which can be substantial at times.

    An excellent alternative to Wilson is Josh at Allegheny Gun Works.

    Here is another option for a Beretta 92 Series trigger job.

    Most serious Beretta 92 fans should know of Ernest Langdon, for those that aren’t…

    He also has this venture:

    Langdon Tactical, Inc. specializes in firearms training, consulting, custom trigger jobs and gun work.

    Here’s a interesting product…

    TRIGGER JOB IN A BAG – BERETTA 92 SERIES $165.00

    After several thousand trigger jobs on Beretta 92s and PX4s, LTT has the process down to a formula. We now offer what we call “Trigger Job in a Bag”. Purchase this kit to receive all of the important parts involved in a trigger job that are pre-polished and stoned to give you close to the same trigger job you would get if you sent it to us.

    92 Series Trigger Job in a Bag includes; Wilson Combat Ultimate Trigger bar, Elite II hammer, Sear, Sear Spring, Trigger Spring, Hammer Strut, and Wilson Combat Reduced Power Hammer Spring.

    If you want a different Spring (12#, 13#, 14#) than what is available, please note it in your order notes.

    While not a new option, I finally had an opportunity to fire one installed on a acquaintances Beretta. I was extremely impressed.

    This maybe the perfect option for those that are impatient waiting or dislike having their primary CCW away at a gunsmith.

    I am considering this option myself, but think I will ask about swapping Elite II hammer for a Spurless hammer.


    Elite II hammer


    Spurless hammer

    #59414
    Profile photo of Joe (G.W.N.S.)Joe (G.W.N.S.)
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    A easy swap for most!

    #59997
    Profile photo of Joe (G.W.N.S.)Joe (G.W.N.S.)
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    As noted in other Threads I’ve been having difficulty seeing my pistol sights.

    Have been exploring various options.

    Standard Sights on my M9.

    This is my first attempt at a solution.

    I blacked out rear half moon dot and applied Testor’s florescent Red to Front Sight White dot.

    This is much better for me!

    The photo doesn’t do this modification justice, it appears much brighter than depicted.

    I lack the knowledge to properly explain all the various factors related to aging eyes, but this is a significant improvement.

    I may apply this Red to entire rear of Front Sight to duplicate old revolver Front sight inserts popular back in the day, but will wait a week to evaluate current modification.

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    #60086
    Profile photo of Joe (G.W.N.S.)Joe (G.W.N.S.)
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    In the past I’ve been satisfied with stock pistols, I would chose one equipped close enough for my needs and leave it.

    Times change.

    The magazine release on my M9 has been adequate, I could just operate it without changing my grip.

    So I decided to try swapping it out with a larger one and a Beretta 25% off Independence Day sale was a bonus.

    I purchased the Magazine Release with the same profile, but it’s 1.7mm longer which is just enough to make a difference without being a problem.

    It’s working well and is just a bit easier to use.

    A solid $15.75 investment. ;-)

    #60161
    Profile photo of A_A_Ron2gunsA_A_Ron2guns
    Participant

    I shot an M9 today for the first time in a long time and I’d forgotten how easy they are to shoot. I really do want an A3.

    You are what you do, when it counts. -The Masao

    Not the other Aaron's in this industry!

    #60162
    Profile photo of Joe (G.W.N.S.)Joe (G.W.N.S.)
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    I shot an M9 today for the first time in a long time and I’d forgotten how easy they are to shoot. I really do want an A3.

    The M9 is in a golden age at the moment IMHO.

    M9

    M9A1

    Langdon M9

    What Makes the Langdon M9 Unique:

    Steel Trigger and trigger spring
    “D” Hammer spring
    Gen-3 locking block kit (surpasses Mil-Spec standards)
    “G” conversion kit

    92 ELITE LTT

    The Beretta 92 Elite LTT, built in partnership with Ernest Langdon of Langdon Tactical, is the ‘Ultimate 92 Package’, incorporating many features including the Vertec/M9A3 slide and M9A1 Frame that Beretta shooters have always loved.

    M9A3

    Available in black now.

    Pretty much any variation you could imagine is currently available!

    #63309
    Profile photo of Joe (G.W.N.S.)Joe (G.W.N.S.)
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    I’ve always stayed with Beretta magazines and have never had a magazine related issue.

    One exception was a extremely high round count magazine, the synthetic follower had a grove worn into it from the hold open feature, this grove prevented engagement of the slide lock on last round.

    Replaced follower and never had a further issue.

    I track how many rounds through my firearms, but not individual magazines. I estimate it had thousands through it. Since this hasn’t happened to other high round count magazines I suspect the follower was defective.

    I have a large number of magazines for my M9.

    I have heard good things about Mec-Gar Magazines, but hadn’t felt the need to try them since I have so many magazines already.

    Mec-Gar makes a 20 round Beretta magazine that only is 5/8″ longer than a standard magazine.

    Between the latest M17 high capacity magazines and a general deteriorating world I decided to give this Mec-Gar 20 round Magazine a test run.

    They have a listed MSRP of $46.50, but I found one for $25.00.

    I fired 260 trouble free rounds through it, this provided the confidence to order two more.

    My standard is to carry two spare magazines. So with one extra round chambered for a EDC of 46 rounds (15, 15, 15+1).

    Assuming the two I have ordered perform as well, these Mec-Gar 20 rounders would increase this to a EDC of 61 rounds for that slight increase of 5/8″ in length.

    Is it needed?

    Hopefully not, but the 5/8″ doesn’t effect my concealment (YMMV) and would provide the equivalent of four magazines. ;-)

    Will update when I receive and test the two that I ordered.

    #64291
    Profile photo of Joe (G.W.N.S.)Joe (G.W.N.S.)
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    So I am happy with the Mec-Gar 20 round Magazines and they are as easily concealed as standard Beretta magazines.

    So during the Pre-Black Friday sales Beretta USA had the 30 round magazines on sale for $22 each (list around $40) and while I already had a four of them I thought why not!

    Ordered 3 more with free ground shipping on Sunday and they arrived today.

    I certainly forget how difficult loading these are when brand new, they get easier with time.

    So why 30 rounders?

    Yea I could make the case that keeping them in vehicle for a mob situation, but they are most likely to be used for fun plinking. ;-)

    Also I have been drooling over Wilson Combat’s AR9B pistol, they are available for either Beretta and Glock magazines. These magazines would be excellent for this.

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    Above is a AR9G equipped with a MRO, Gear Head Works Tail hook 2 brace, and a suppressor.

    So for concealed carry it would be a stretch to consider these, but fun is certainly a good enough reason IMHO. ;-)

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