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September 29, 2016 at 12:13 pm #33791AnonymousInactive
The German/Austrian mess Tin. Unlike many other mess tins this one is designed to cook in. The flat US mess kit is not designed for this but rather to use for pre-made food. Sadly I see too many ppl going to that kit. IMO its the last tin id recommend to anyone for E&E kit.
Ive been using one of these since I was 15. Ive tried others but always went back to this design. It has a deep pot for boiling and stewing. The pot has a handle for hanging over a fire and ease of use on coals. You can also store food or burner kit inside.
I don’t NOT recommend anyone using a reproduction or East German version of this kit. I used an East German version years ago and the shit commie metal actually burned through the bottom from a few days use. Also there are other kits of this European design I have not tried such as the Dutch, Polish, Russian, Finnish and so on. They are very similar in terms of the general European design and will function the same but when it comes to maint and using in the field. However I have never tried them. So I cannot comment on them.
Swedish Mess Tin
There is also the Swedish equivalent. I don’t care for this kit. Its heavier and harder to clean. Its made of steel and thus harder to heat properly. I don’t like to carry lose liquids in my kit so the cooking stand and alcohol bottle were of no use to me. Regardless I gave it its proper trial but in the end I went back to the German version. Its a perfectly suitable cooking pot set but it just wasn’t up to Bergmann standards..
British Mess Tin..
I don’t like this one either..Its just not deep enough and I cannot store anything real inside. Plus i found it was super hard to clean in the field. But it does stow well in a rucksack or even in webbing. It does heat easy saving fuel.
Why I like the German/Austrian mess tin..
When it comes to a mess tin for my Evasion needs it has to be easy to use, give me the best payback for fuel used to heat it whether its wood for an relaxed overt base camp or a burner stove under a more covert type situation. Its duel use is satisfactory…
1. Cooking/carrying handle.
2. Its deep enough to fill with a lot inside its deep pot. I can make a lot of water or food fast with it.
3. Its relatively light weight aluminum.
4. Easy to clean.
5. Thick enough to withstand hot fire but thin enough to heat contents fast on my burner.
6. Works well with my burner kit.
7. Its a simple time tested design (late 1800s) that delivers.
8. I can attach a piece of cord to the handle and use it as an improvised carrying pouch.
9. I can store items inside (Total utilization!).
10. Its not made in China.
The only pot I ever considered as a replacement was a US issue WWII Mountain cook set. There are more modern versions exactly like this one but this one was WWII. I think it was thinner then the modern made ones, thus might take more fuel to heat them. It had nearly the same characteristics i like about the German mess tin but it was bigger and I loved that.
It was a tits of a tin. Three of us ate from it w/o portion problems and it could be carried in one ruck w/o sucking up too much room. There was also a lot of room inside for storage. Sadly it disappeared when I lent it out to someone …
BergmannSeptember 29, 2016 at 12:43 pm #33792VidarParticipant
That’s good stuff. I know I’ve seen that kit in many of your photos and videos. I have the flat style American version and you’re correct, it is limited for heating and cooking pre made food for the most part. I am in the market for a new kit and I’ll probably give this one a shot.
Former LRS. (If you don't know what that is, good, we're doing our job)September 29, 2016 at 6:05 pm #33811riflemanivParticipant
I have a Russian tin that I use often. So far it seems bomb proof. I have also used a E. German tin also without problem. I wonder if you got one from a shitty batch of metal.
CTT1504, NODF 1504, CP 1610September 29, 2016 at 6:09 pm #33812AnonymousInactive
Quite possible. However I have heard stories from folks in Germany similar to mine.. but yeah there is every possibility there is a shit batch in circulation out there..
BergmannSeptember 30, 2016 at 9:00 am #33826AnonymousInactive
There is a Russian survivalist on Youtube that uses that same kit. He has a high opinion of it too.
Thanks for the links, I’ll be getting one.
Edit: Ordered the two pack from Sportsmans Guide. I am already a member, so it was only $18.98 for two kits with free shipping. This gives me one for my wife too.
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