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  • #27694
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    Brian from Georgia
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    There have been several posts on milspec, dependable, combat grade regular ol’ 5.56 ARs. What’s the opinion on a reliable .308 AR for patrol purposes?

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    #27696
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    ffhounddog
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    The only ones I have used have been a Knights and a LMT and they are both good to go. I have been told that the new Sig716 is solid but no experience. Also ironically DPMS is well regarded for .308 ARs in Law Enforcement circles and from some SF guys I know use DPMS for personnel guns to practice with a .308 platform but none have been run hard according to them. HK 417 has been winning a lot of contracts. Make sure the magwell is for DPMS vice Armalite if you want to be able to find mags easier.

    This is one area where there are options that might be better outside of the AR platform for cheaper but mounting optics my be more difficult.

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    Joe (G.W.N.S.)
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    Make sure the magwell is for DPMS vice Armalite if you want to be able to find mags easier.

    :good:

    #27718
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    Weber
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    This is purely conjecture because I have no personal experience with .308 ARs, but if money is no object, then go with the Knights. From what I have read, it’s the cat’s ass. I hear the Daniel Defense 308 is nice but I haven’t read a lot about it yet. A .308 AR is in my plans for the near future so right now I’m just doing my research to find out which manufacturer and model meets all of my needs/wants. YMMV.

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    #27720
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    Max
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    Any intel on the Wilson Combat 308 gas gun?
    I am looking to pick up a 308 AR patterned rifle (that will mostly be shot suppressed) for Christmas this year.

    #27721
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    I have a Sig 716 with a 4 x 16 NF that I use.
    I will bring it next month to training day so you check it out. I have also heard that new DPMS gen II are pretty good. I have a DPMS LR .308 for reaching out to touch stuff.

    Alumni living in N.E Fla. for now. Going to retire in Iowa on the farm some day soon.

    #27732
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    Pinky
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    I have a DPMS gen 2 recon that I am happy with. It has not been through anything like a weekend in Romney though.

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    -- Thomas Jefferson

    #27738
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    Weber
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    Also worth looking into. Suns of Liberty Gunworks. They appear to make a pretty good product and back it up with a lifetime warranty. And they use high quality parts in all of their rifles.

    My mom said I could be anything I wanted to be when I grew up. So I chose to be a man.

    #27739
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    Dennis W
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    There have been several posts on milspec, dependable, combat grade regular ol’ 5.56 ARs. What’s the opinion on a reliable .308 AR for patrol purposes?

    Brian
    I have an Armalite AR-10 you can try out also. It uses the modified M14 mags. which is not a problem for me as I also have an M14.
    Dennis

    MTV Alumni - N. Central Florida
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    #27753
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    RRS
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    Thanks Weber that is a great site, seems like a good business model describing their parts and all. Prices are in the ball park as well

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    #27800
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    Max
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    Weber

    Thanks for tagging us, we not only try to build a rock solid combat grade rifle but we try to make it easy to customize from the start so there’s no wasted money switching parts out later.

    http://www.sonsoflibertygw.com

    #27811
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    Weber
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    Weber

    Thanks for tagging us, we not only try to build a rock solid combat grade rifle but we try to make it easy to customize from the start so there’s no wasted money switching parts out later.

    http://www.sonsoflibertygw.com

    You’re welcome. Looking forward to getting my hands on one of your Mk10s in the near future.

    My mom said I could be anything I wanted to be when I grew up. So I chose to be a man.

    #42812
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    wheelsee
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    Bumping this one as a family member is asking and I’m ignorant…….

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    #42813
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    Bumping this one as a family member is asking and I’m ignorant…….

    I’m not an expert by any means, but I am a research nerd. The general consensus among the “serious use” crowd is KAC, LMT, or maybe Larue. There are plenty of others on the market, but the ground truth is that there just isn’t yet a set standard for the .308 AR platform.

    I have a .308 AR and a tricked out M1A. In hindsight, I would probably take all the money I spent on those and spend it on a SCAR-17.

    "Man is still the first weapon of war" - Field Marshal Montgomery

    Matt B - VA

    #42814
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    shooter
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    “maybe LaRue”… yep. I LOVE LaRue optic mounts, but I had one of their early Predatar .308’s and it had BAD extraction issues, and was about a 3-4 MOA rifle. Not horrible, and the extraction issues worked themselves out after a couple of hundred rounds, but for the money I expected something that would WORK. I have heard they have the extraction issues fixed, but… not sure I’d trust it with the sour grapes taste in my mouth.

    LMT MWR was good to go, except that it’s heavy as hell. Shoots 1MOA or better with good ammo, even with the chrome-line barrel, and reliability was 99%. Just weighs so damned much with loaded mag and optic that it was a no-go for me.

    Colt 901? Very nice rifle, unless you want to run it with a suppressor. I tried all kinds of buffer and spring combos and it was no dice for me. If you have no plans to run a suppressor, it is the best combo of accuracy, weight, and reliability that I have seen in a .308 AR-pattern rifle.

    For my money, the SCAR-17s has been a much better balance of weight, accuracy, and reliablity. Took some time to get accustomed to the different location of the charging handle, but this is a solid, VERY reliable weapon, based on my 3,000 rds or so sent downrange.

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    #42816
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    First Sergeant
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    As the guys already said, for 7.62 AR go with KAC, LMT, Larue or a Colt 901.

    If you can find the parts, the 901 can be converted to 5.56. Change out the upper and there is a mag well block that will allow it to take 5.56 mags.

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    #42818
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    Keeper
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    I am going to stick to my SIG 716. We had an training weekend this weekend here, I carried it not bad a little heavy but ok.I have a three point sling on it. It works just my 2Cs

    Alumni living in N.E Fla. for now. Going to retire in Iowa on the farm some day soon.

    #42824
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    hellokitty
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    I have a PWS AR10 for sale. PWS is a Cadillac and it’s a piston. Only around 500 reds in it.

    CTT 1502, NODF 1502, CP 1503, RC 002- Rifleman, FoF x 2, Run and Gun, RS/CTT, CLC, CQBC, Heat 1

    Craig S.

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