October 20, 2014 at 12:06 pm #10483Gamma RatParticipant
I ran across this article a while back, and a recent post regarding superglue, brought it to mind.
Anyone with basic first aid skills can superglue a wound, but if the blood vessels arent re-attached, you run the risk of gang green.
Here’s a new method of re-attaching blood vessels that appears fairly simple. Simple enough, that most of us could do it.
Here’s a source for the polymer 250g for $120.
Here’s the gist of the article:
Poloxamer 407 is non-toxic, and hardens when heated above body temperature. (as in under a heat lamp)
1. Clamp both ends of the blood vessel off.
2. Inject the polymer into each end of the blood vessel
3. Heat the blood vessel to solidify the polymer
4. Trim up the ends so they can be glued back together
5. Superglue the blood vessel back together
6. Allow the polymer to cool to body temp, and liquify
7. Remove the clamps
The polymer will naturally pass from the body.
It might be worth stocking.
Gammas stand apart, staking out and defending their space, finding their own mate, showing no interest in dominating the Betas. Essentially, they avoid all but necessary, cautious interaction with Alphas and Betas.October 20, 2014 at 12:29 pm #10485Gamma RatParticipant
I would probably recommend a blood thinner as well to prevent any clotting. Asperin is available to everyone, but Heparin would be my preferred choice.
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Looks like good stuff. I am all about lay people having access to any medical supplies they need.
I would like to throw out there a few things. It’s a little more complicated than that as you have to take into account all the other things that go along with a large wound that would need vessel resection.
Also, with this type of work there may be some type of particular procedure for using the polymer to get it to work. Like you may need to cut the vessels in a certain way to connect them or there being a particular way to prep the vessel.
I would advise caution.
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TEAM COYOTE!October 20, 2014 at 9:52 pm #10506ThomasParticipant
This not something that I am likely to put in my medical kit. While this is an excellent tool, it will require training by a skilled medical professional to ensure that it is used correctly.
Caution is the order of day as DuaneH stated.July 31, 2015 at 4:04 am #19538AnonymousInactive
Here is the alternative provider of PoloxamerAugust 1, 2015 at 4:18 pm #19557HiDesertRatParticipant
Having been witness to perhaps several hundred hours of vascular surgery, I would caution anyone from attempting such procedures. Yes, I actually can remember a sales rep speaking about this product. Innovative and time saving among some of the comments made. Remember though, that one has to create access to the operative site in question, identify the anatomy, have the proper tools to segregate and expose the field so as to perform the work intended. Lets not forget proper lighting, specialized tools, suction, anesthesia, blood replacement etc., under sterile conditions. Lots of requirements that in all probability are not available to the prepper community let alone a hospital when there will be shortages of materials, personnel, drugs, etc. Also, this particular item is patented, so its not going to come cheap if you can locate it. I do not wish to throw cold water on exciting new breakthroughs in technology, but one must also confront reality. Most folks that will require any treatment at all will be under the care of the likes of ‘Doc’ from Gunsmoke or Dr Quinn, medicine woman, and the surgery will be performed on the bar at the Long Branch Saloon with kerosene lamps and ‘ole red eye’ whiskey for pain control. Yes, there has been surgery performed in less than ideal conditions that went well, more than likely performed with archaic tools, materials and such, by accomplished clinicians. The 3rd world does it routinely, and I am sure there are participants on this website who have seen such before. History is replete with many fine examples of humans persevering under duress and hardship, and so it will be in this arena as well.
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