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  • #65174
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    farmer
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    Has anyone trained for rifle malfunction at night or while blindfolded?

    Good idea Bad idea ? ?

    Having dummie rounds in the magazine for safety ?

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    #65176
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    Under NODs sounds like a good idea. Dummy rounds also sounds like a good idea, to start at least.

    You wouldn’t be alone in trying!

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    #65178
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    Another alumni made me some dud rounds by killing the primers with WD40, then drilling a hole in the center of the cartridge. They work great for some malfunction training. For the AK it’s pretty simple, it’s basically a reload 99% of the time.

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    #65179
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    There is a method for malfunction drills when visibility or NODs prevent the common first step of seeing into the ejection port. We teach it at class / on the night firing class.

    Carry on.

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    We always did and do stoppage drills during night and low light training.

    TJ has had similiar sorts of tests as a stage at TIGER Valley events. Once, we had to assemble our rifle, for time, while wearing blackout goggles. He is evil.

    Of course it is best to use touch and muscle memory for quickly managing standard malfunctions. However, for complex or unique problems, like checking to see if your buddy just accidentally plugged his or her muzzle with mud, while maintaining light discipline, it is helpful to have a center pinhole in the lens cap to place on the NOD, that allows the weapon to be in focus by maximizing depth-of-field, although brightness will be decreased.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stopping_down

    #65181
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    @stuck_case_rod – I am not sure who you are, but I think you did CLC this year, correct? Of course, MVT runs the most thorough and common sense malfunction / stoppage drills available as part of the live fire classes, for example this is covered in detail on HEAT 1. It is also covered in the Tactical Manual.

    #65183
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    Something like this may help:
    Ebay – Snap Caps Combo 9mm/223/12ga Combo Set

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    #65184
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    …you did CLC this year, correct?

    Yes, the lesser half of the old couple which Tango wrung out on The Eternal Sidehill From Hell during the Night Recon Op. That’s what I get for pissing him off. No hard feelings, Tango.

    And The Joe that “got everyone killed” on the second hostage rescue. No hard feelings, Max.

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    @farmer: I encourage getting proficient in the “mystery six”, as my wife coined them from her MVT Heat 1, in a regular setting before proceeding to low light and night stuff. MVT’s mystery six clearance drills are by far the best, and I regularly do these with snap caps, in the house. Also allows me to do some dry firing.

    @tango: agree! The snap caps are amazing! I highly recommend this product. Magpul also makes some, but I keep them in a separate marked training mag so there is little to no risk of me putting a round through the wall.

    As we all know, malfunction drills are a perishable skill. Practice at home, but live fire on the range with a buddy loading your mag can be humbling. Add a timer, and enjoy the process!

    #65187
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    As we all know, malfunction drills are a perishable skill. Practice at home, but live fire on the range with a buddy loading your mag can be humbling. Add a timer, and enjoy the process!

    Emphasis mine.

    We did a drill called “F… you buddy” in SWAT, and it was designed for just that. The amazing part was the number of guys who kept clearing repeated malfunctions on a mag when the correct answer was change the dang mag!! You learn many things when your buddy is “evil” :yes:

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