March 21, 2014 at 4:09 pm #930
A freshwater swamp in Florida
OK, first what I am talking about is far different than what is normally thought of as a Redoubt. Let’s face it; few are going to permanently take up residence in the various swamps of North America. For most what I am suggesting is a temporary stay, the Holliday Inn Express of Redoubts!
Swamp in southern Louisiana
However if you live near any of these swamps I would suggest learning more about them as good fallback areas. Most don’t have true Retreats to run to when the SHTF, some plan to shelter in place, but what if you have to leave for whatever reason? Where do you go? There are no mountains to head to in my area. There are plenty of woodland areas, but where do you think the other Refugees will go? Most people either have camped or think they can. Swamps on the other hand will scare off most and those that go there without training, will not last long.
Swamps provide Water, Food, and a major physical barrier for enhanced security. Those that take the time to learn “the way of the swamp” will not be disappointed.
Overview of North American Swamps:
Atchafalaya Swamp at the lower end of the Mississippi River is the largest swamp in the United States. It is an example of southern cypress swamp. Other famous swamps in the United States are the forested portions of the Everglades, Okefenokee Swamp, Barley Barber Swamp, Great Cypress Swamp and the Great Dismal Swamp. The Okefenokee is located in extreme southeastern Georgia and extends slightly into northeastern Florida. The Great Cypress Swamp is mostly in Delaware but extends into Maryland on the Delmarva Peninsula. Point Lookout State Park on the southern tip of Maryland contains a large amount of swamps and marshes. The Great Dismal Swamp lies in extreme southeastern Virginia and extreme northeastern North Carolina. Both are National Wildlife Refuges. Another swamp area, Reelfoot Lake of extreme western Tennessee and Kentucky, was created by the New Madrid earthquake of 1812. Caddo Lake, the Great Dismal and Reelfoot are swamps that are centered at large lakes. Swamps are often called bayous in the southeastern United States, especially in the Gulf Coast region.
List of major North American Swamps:
• Atchafalaya National Wildlife Refuge, Louisiana, United States
• Big Cypress National Preserve, Florida, United States
• Barley Barber Swamp, Florida, United States
• Everglades, Florida, United States
• Great Black Swamp, Indiana/Ohio, United States
• Great Cypress Swamp, Maryland, United States, also known as Great Pocomoke Swamp
• Great Dismal Swamp, North Carolina/Virginia, United States
• Great Swamp National Wildlife Refuge, New Jersey, United States
• Green Swamp, Florida, United States
• Green Swamp, North Carolina, United States
• Honey Island Swamp, Louisiana, United States
• Hudson Bay Lowlands, Ontario, Canada
• Limberlost, Indiana, United States
• Louisiana swamplands, Louisiana, United States
• Mingo National Wildlife Refuge, Puxico, Missouri, United States
• Okefenokee Swamp, Georgia/Florida, United States
• Point Lookout’s Swamps
• Reelfoot Lake, Tennessee/Kentucky, United States
• Congaree Swamp, South Carolina, United States
A bayou is a Franco-English term for a body of water typically found in flat, low-lying area, and can refer either to an extremely slow-moving stream or river (often with a poorly defined shoreline), or to a marshy lake or wetland. The name “bayou” can also refer to a creek whose current reverses daily due to tides and which contains brackish water highly conducive to fish life and plankton.
Bayous are commonly found in the Gulf Coast region of the Southern United States, notably the Mississippi River region, with the state of Louisiana being famous for them. A bayou is frequently an anabranch or minor braid of a braided channel that is moving much more slowly than the mainstream, often becoming boggy and stagnant. Though vegetation varies by region, many bayous are home to crawfish, certain species of shrimp, other shellfish, catfish, frogs, toads, American alligators, American crocodiles, herons, turtles and myriad other species.
Bayou Country is most closely associated with Cajun and Creole cultural groups native to the Gulf Coast region generally stretching from Houston, Texas, to Mobile, Alabama, and picking back up in South Florida around the Everglades with its center in New Orleans, Louisiana.
Mississippi Backwoods Drifter
There are certainly others, but these are the best in my opinion. Shallow draft and light but sturdy construction is very important. Some of the best are home built if you are handy with tools. They can be built very economically if on a tight budget or want them to be disposable.
Other options that provide Shelter:
All the above boats have 8” or less draft. I chose not to get into Airboats, Jetboats, and Hovercraft plenty of info online.
Mangroves are rich in food, however fresh water is scarce.
Mangroves are various types of trees up to medium height and shrubs that grow in saline coastal sediment habitats in the tropics and subtropics – mainly between latitudes 25° N and 25° S. The remaining mangrove forest areas of the world in 2000 was 53,190 square miles (137,760 km²) spanning 118 countries and territories. The word is used in at least three senses: (1) most broadly to refer to the habitat and entire plant assemblage or mangal, for which the terms mangrove forest biome, mangrove swamp, and mangrove forest are also used, (2) to refer to all trees and large shrubs in the mangrove swamp, and (3) narrowly to refer to the mangrove family of plants.
The mangrove biome, or mangal, is a distinct saline woodland or shrubland habitat characterized by depositional coastal environments, where fine sediments (often with high organic content) collect in areas protected from high-energy wave action. Mangroves dominate three-quarters of tropical coastlines. The saline conditions tolerated by various mangrove species range from brackish water, through pure seawater (30 to 40 ppt), to water concentrated by evaporation to over twice the salinity of ocean seawater (up to 90 ppt).
Because of their sensitivity to subfreezing temperatures, mangroves in the continental United States are limited to the Florida peninsula and isolated growths of black mangrove along the coast of Southern Louisiana and South Texas.
The distribution of the mangrove community in Florida is shown in red. Cedar Keys and Ponce de Leon Inlet are the northern limits of the mangrove community.
The Florida Mangrove community is found as far north as Cedar Key on the Gulf coast of Florida, and as far north as the Ponce de Leon Inlet on the Atlantic coast of Florida. Black Mangroves can regrow from roots after being killed back by a freeze, and are found by themselves a little further north, to Jacksonville on the east coast and along the Florida Panhandle on the Gulf coast.
Most of Florida is sub-tropical, so it is not ideal for mangroves, and the trees tend to be shorter and the leaves smaller in northern and central Florida than in tropical regions. In Deep South Florida and the Florida Keys, the tropical climate allows mangroves to grow larger due to being frost free.
Florida mangrove plant communities covered an estimated 430,000 to 540,000 acres in Florida in 1981. Ninety percent of the Florida mangroves are in southern Florida, in Collier, Lee, Miami-Dade and Monroe Counties.
Florida Mangrove trees
Approximately 280,000 acres of mangrove forests are in the hands of the Federal, State and local governments, and of private, non-profit organizations. Most of those acres are in Everglades National Park. Mangroves cover a wide band all along the southern end of the night Florida peninsula facing on Florida Bay, from Key Largo across to close to Flamingo, then inland behind the beaches and marl prairies of Cape Sable and all around Whitewater Bay. From Whitewater Bay a broad band of mangroves extends up the Gulf coast to Marco Island, including the Ten Thousand Islands.
Mangroves also extend throughout the Florida Keys. Florida Bay is dotted with small islands, which are often no more than mud flats or shoals more or less covered by mangroves. Biscayne Bay also has extensive mangroves. Mangrove coverage is limited elsewhere, with the largest areas in the Indian River Lagoon on the east coast, and the Caloosahatchee River, Pine Island Sound, Charlotte Harbor estuaries, and Tampa Bay on the west coast.
Mangrove Food Resouces:
The Florida mangrove system is an important habitat for many species. It provides nursery grounds for young fish, crustaceans and mollusks. Many fish feed in the mangrove forests, including snook, Gray or Mangrove snapper, Schoolmaster snapper, tarpon, jack, sheepshead, red drum, Hardhead Silverside, juvenile Blue Angelfish, juvenile Porkfish, Great Barracuda, Scrawled Cowfish and Permit, as well as shrimp and clams.
The branches of mangroves serve as roosts and rookeries for coastal and wading birds, such as the brown pelican, roseate spoonbill, Frigatebird, Double-crested cormorant, Brown Noddy, Great White Heron, and Wurdemann’s Heron, color phases of the Great Blue Heron, Osprey, Snowy Egret, Green Heron, Reddish Egret, and Greater Yellowlegs.
Other animals that shelter in the mangroves are the American Coot, American Crocodile, Eastern Diamondback Rattlesnake, Mangrove Snake, and the Atlantic Saltmarsh Snake.
I know this Brown Water Redoubt is not for everyone, but for those near these resources, consideration this option even if only as an emergency backup seems prudent.March 21, 2014 at 4:37 pm #934MaxKeymaster
Swamps would be a great place for Resistance forces to hole up in/operate out of. In a similar way to any other difficult terrain such as mountains/forests. Wasn’t ‘The Patriot’ movie based on ‘The Swamp Fox’?
Good post. With some small shallow draft boats, you can be mobile and access the swamp. Making sleeping platforms based on either boats/trees or posts hammered into the mud is also pretty easy.March 21, 2014 at 4:40 pm #935AnonymousInactive
History has proven the redoubt abilities of the swamp.
Swamps are tough places. I saw a guy go hysterical to the point of tears and delirium doing a night land nav FX in a swamp. He flat out broke. I suspect it was from claustrophobia and the unknown surroundings…
Other then mnts, swamps is the second choice id flee to if I could but there are none in Alaska. Well not like on the east coast. There is a lot of wet marsh land but its not as over grown as back east.March 23, 2014 at 2:10 pm #1123BaldrickParticipant
The Patriot was in fact loosely based on exploits of Francis Marion. He used swamps as a key part of his UW strategy and I would recommend the study of him for anyone contemplating UW as there are excellent examples of auxiliaries, light infantry stuff, and sticking it to the man! There is a large swamp/national forest north of Charleston SC that is named for him.March 23, 2014 at 3:42 pm #1130
Where to find Swamps?
One method is http://www.hometownlocator.com/ then click your State.
Once at your State, scroll down to bottom of page and pick (State) Features.
There are columns for (State) Physical Features, (State) Cultural Features, and (State) Historical Features/Landmarks.
Partial list of numbers of Swamps available in North America, the Southern Line.
Florida has 1053 Swamps
Georgia has 463 Swamps
Alabama has 98 Swamps
Mississippi has 121 Swamps
Louisiana has 270 Swamps
Texas has 207 SwampsMarch 26, 2014 at 10:20 am #1479D CloseModerator
Virginia has swamps. The eastern shore and all along the Chesapeake and James River. Many of them are brackish, especially in northern North Carolina. It is reported that there is significant drug traffic in those areas with access to deep water. I do kayak in the marshes and it can be challenging to navigate and survive. There are many hunting platforms that have been built. They are infested with snakes and other creatures. The mosquitoes are relentless. Still, there is plenty to eat and there will be no armored “thunder runs.” Our Vietnam era brethren would feel right at home.
The only easy day was yesterdayMarch 26, 2014 at 10:41 am #1484
Swamps have been home to all manner of people trying to avoid scrutiny.
Virginia has some excellent swamps, there are 145 listed.
He is a interesting Swamp fact…
Maine has 395 swamps.May 20, 2014 at 1:27 pm #5483WastedSkinParticipant
G.W.N.S. That first picture looks like it could have been taken less than half a mile from my parents house. I look forward to spending some time out there next time I make it back home.
We the untrained, led by the unqualified, do the impossible for the ungrateful.May 21, 2014 at 3:45 am #5526AnonymousInactive
There are decent swamps not far from my retreat location. This is great information to plan and prepare with.June 9, 2014 at 11:36 pm #6160D CloseModerator
Good pic Able. Slow moving through that I think.
The only easy day was yesterdayJune 9, 2014 at 11:43 pm #6161AnonymousInactive
Bring lots of CLP :DJune 12, 2014 at 9:54 pm #6320AnonymousInactive
Yes its not an easy navigate either. It’s depth is unprevictable and even a canoe is a pain because of the random submerged stumps and fallen trees. I’m going to incorporate this area in my plans and preparations. Most of this area is deep and very difficult to see into even from the air.April 6, 2015 at 6:35 pm #16200
Things to see in Florida swamps.
A fairly common sight.
A not so common sight the Florida Panther.
A really common sight.
More common than in the past.
Dangerous sight, the Eastern Diamondback Rattle Snake.
September 1, 2015 at 9:59 pm #20468
One of my favorite considerations about swamps is the abundance of food.
A traditional Deep South swamp favorite is Alligator!
With such a variety of sizes available it would be quite easy to take an appropriate size for your needs.
Note: I am not talking about poaching now! I am talking a legitimate survival/Event situation.
I came across this video that may help provide guidance to the first time Gator Butcher!
Use of air-compressor is helpful, but optional.
Later I will post on Tanning hide and some great traditional recipes served with some swamp side dishes.September 2, 2015 at 6:22 pm #20481
This is from the Louisiana Alligator Advisory Council.
How to Handle Alligator Meat
Alligator meat has a very mild taste and readily adapts to recipes to veal, chicken and most seafoods. Choice cuts of meat, primarily the tail and jaw, can be used in any recipe. The body and leg meat, with just a little extra preparation and special recipes, can be just as tasty. I recommend cubing the meat for extra tenderness or pounding fillets with a meat mallet.
Regardless of what cut of alligator meat you are using, all fat and sinew must be removed before freezing or preparing. Even the yellowish fat between the layers should be removed. When using leg or body meat, we recommend removing the white tendons and vessels as well.
Alligator meat has been successfully frozen for over a year. This was done by removing all fat, wrapping well in cellophane and then again in freezer paper. Alligator meat can be tenderized in several different ways. Some restaurants run each piece of meat through a cubing machine. Other restauranteurs recommend pounding each peice of alligator with a meat mallet until thin, usually about one inch. All restaurants recommend cutting alligator meat across the grain for a more tender piece of meat.
Body and leg meat cuts are excellent choices for burgers, casseroles, ground meat, soups and stews. Jaw and tail meat work well for baked, cutlet recipes and fried foods.
Regardless of which cut of meat you use, you will find alligator to be a very delicious and versatile meat. It is also low in fat, making it a great item for the calorie conscious person.
Meat cut types
G* – top of neck, cube or use mallet
A – Jaw, very tender
T – tailmeat, very tender
O* – neck meat, cube or use mallet
R – back strap, tender
B – body meat
L* leg meat, must cube or use mallet * less tender cutsSeptember 2, 2015 at 7:03 pm #20483
My favorite is the Gator jowl(jaw) Dutch oven roast.
Take the Jowl portion and lay it flat
spread a thin layer of lard across jowl (you have been saving the renderings from that wild boar?)
half some wild onions (Allium canadense) about a cup or so
a 1/4 cup of Bird Peppers (Capsicum annuum var. glabriusculum) dried or fresh
a 1/4 cup of Cattail flour
3 cups of your favorite meat stock (you have been making meat stock?)
place Jowl in preheated/pregreased dutch oven and sear all sides
add the rest of your ingredients and cook 3 hours.
I am practically drooling at the thought.
Note: Above would work fine with Wild Boar.September 2, 2015 at 7:24 pm #20484AnonymousInactive
Due to its direction moved to Fieldcraft forumApril 6, 2016 at 5:45 pm #25958
Now we’re talking a serious Gator!
Just under 15 feet!April 8, 2016 at 5:41 pm #26031grammaParticipant
Building foundations and artifacts have been found in the Great Dismal Swamp. The historian/archeologist believes a group of slaves ran and survived in the swamp for some time during the Civil War. There are graves, as well. The discovery was a surprise, although there have been stories of such things among the locals. The site hadn’t been disturbed in a hundred years.
You can forget cell service in most of the swamp; gps still works.April 11, 2016 at 6:25 pm #26137gunnerbobParticipant
Great post. I currently reside outside of Charleston, SC with its many swamps and spend quite a bit of time around them hiking and exercising (@ local parks). My soon-to-be residence in middle GA has a river a few miles away and the back-up location is about half a mile from the same. There are many parts of the river that turn into swamp and marsh area, it’s a great place to be near for contingency operations. The family hunts and fishes the river/swamp every year and are very familiar with it, along with the surrounding area. I plan to become very familiar with it as well, such a place is a major asset to have.May 28, 2016 at 6:58 pm #27505June 11, 2016 at 2:46 pm #27874
Max recently answered a question about Why specifically is a hammock not a suitable shelter for a patrol base? in regards to the Combat Patrol course.
Then goes on to the suitable use of hammocks.
Hammocks/ A-Frames / platforms etc are legitimate in true jungle or swamp environments. This is where water and / or insect life is such that you need to get off the ground. That is another area that falls under jungle warfare training and is relevant to certain parts of the US. Florida / Louisiana anyone? In those circumstances, any patrol base is located in thick vegetation and as such approaching without detection is hard, and concealment is easier.
I wanted to amplify on approaching without detection is hard.
You have the water, vegetation, and wildlife noises. Changes in this as well as sudden absence of wildlife sounds.
Then you have the nighttime guards, no I am not talking about Sentries!
If you watch the previous posts video you see that Florida has no shortage of alligators. They spend much time hunting at night.
The approach of people will cause a smaller gator to noisily flee and a large hungry gator to engage, both movements will cause much noise.
There are more than one swamp guard at night too!
Hammock use beyond the norm:
Note: This is not mine, but a pic from the web.
OK you like the idea of Swamps Redoubts, but you have kids that need safety from the Swamp Creatures.
What to do?
Imagine this hammock over water with ladder to a boat.
Some thoughts from the swamp!
Attachments:You must be logged in to view attached files.August 26, 2016 at 12:31 pm #30769
Chickee huts are as viable an option today as they were in the 1800’s.
Traditional Seminole grass-hut chickee – Chokoloskee Island, Florida 1916
Interior view of a thatched chickee.August 26, 2016 at 1:58 pm #30777AndrewParticipant
As long as I had water continuously available in any other type of environment I would not want to go to a swamp. Never mind the stupid ‘gators, what would drive me nuts would be the damned gnats and mosquitoes. Gnats being more irritating of the two for me.
I s’pose I could eventually adapt, but I would be one miserable sob to live with for the duration.August 26, 2016 at 2:36 pm #30781
There are many things that take getting used to in swamps, of course thats part of the reason they are so good to get away from people in.
Mosquito netting and headnets go a long way in helping, bug spray as a solvent with camo facepaint sticks work well together.August 26, 2016 at 10:36 pm #30812rampantraptorParticipant
Also worth noting that cypress trees and whatnot tannins in the water, which controls mosquito populations, so the bayou doesn’t have as many mosquitoes as one would assume.
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Favorite Swamp food!June 19, 2017 at 2:38 pm #45668April 6, 2018 at 12:33 am #57524
Sometimes the swamp creatures come to visit!
I love Florida.April 6, 2018 at 1:21 am #57525rampantraptorParticipant
With Joe’s bump I thought I should mention the history of Henry Berry Lowrie, who led a guerrilla campaign against the Confederates out of the North Carolina swamps during the Civil War. His brothers and father were executed by the Confederates so he created a guerrilla force of black folks, Lumbees, Confederate deserters and Union escapees that conducted a Robin Hood campaign of robberies against local elites and outlasted the war. Interesting stuff.
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