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  • #39940
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    wheelsee
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    I have read multiple posts regarding painting ARs. If I’m reading correctly, the primary purpose is to break up the pattern and the color black (not a natural color in my AO). I have seen coatings such as Cerakote or KG or Duracoat but I think these have more to do with corrosion protection?? How does Cerakote or KG or any of the other coatings compare?? Worth it?? Not worth it??

    Thanks in Advance.

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    #39953
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    I have an AK that has grey Norrells Moly Resin finish. Looks cool. Read up on Norrells, it is supposed to be very easy to apply and very thin. Mine was done by a smith when I bought the rifle. I like it, it has held up well, I don’t baby it. Also have another rifle with duracoat (i think). I prefer the Norrells, but have no complaints on the duracoat, but also have not ran it through the ringer. Work in progress.

    I want to do my 30-30 with Norrells since it is a reg steel blued rifle and the coating is very thin. Thinking about doing myself.

    As far as worth it, I don’t think coatings are worth it for an AK or AR. They are made to run in crap conditions. I’d just paint mine from here on out.

    I got rid of all my rifles that were pretty and like rifles that can be washed in a river if need be.

    #39959
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    Both of my rifles are painted using krylon spray paint. Then covered with several layers of flat clear coat. The paint gets rubbed off over time where the rifle rubs against other items but it’s no big deal. Besides the weapon is a tool, much like a hammer. Whoever owns a hammer which is spotless, tells me they don’t know how to use a hammer!

    There never seems to be enough time to do it right, but there is always enough time to do it twice.

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    #39968
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    All the special coats will be labor intensive to apply correctly. Pretty much have to start at bare metal. Most people just get krylon camo in tan, brown, or green and spray it on. Don’t even have to use that much. You are just trying to break up the pattern because a long black linear thing will stand out in nature.

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    #39969
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    same here
    The specialized coatings are pretty ‘nice’ and look great but I can’t justify the cost or effort. The spray cans work for me just fine.

    #39970
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    You can buy Air-dry cerakote in very small sample containers directly and it is cheap. One bottle will do 2-4 rifles depending on how heavy you go. It is very tough stuff. I did base coat of OD green on a few rifles as a protective layer then hit it with krylon. Krylon comes off, cerakote does not (without sandblasting or other mechanical means)

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    #39971
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    Thanks……another example of the cost of being on this forum paying for itself from just 1 question……

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    #39975
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    I did a rifle in Alumahyde 2, i has held up OK … better than my buddies Krylon but i have noticed rubs. it goes on like spray paint but needs a warm room to apply real good.

    #39982
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    Thanks……another example of the cost of being on this forum paying for itself from just 1 question……

    Agreed. I’ve been planning to paint one, but keep thinking about the other coatings. To have somebody else Cerakote an AR is $350+ and you pay shipping. It’s $35/can, so you are over $100 to do 3 colors yourself and you have to buy a sprayer.

    Krylon and Rustoleum camo colors are about $10 each. If you don’t like your paint job, just spray it again and you’ll still be money ahead. You can also change it seasonally if needed. More green in the summer and more brown/tan or white in the winter.

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    #39984
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    I think in another thread Joe advised if you don’t like the paint, submerge in brake fluid for a removal. I am too lazy and busy today to look up the other thread…..

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    Joe (G.W.N.S.)
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    I am too lazy and busy today to look up the other thread…

    For those that want to remove basic rattle can finish without damaging original finish, Brake Fluid. Submerged is fastest, but draped with soaked cloth works too. Nylon bristle brush after a while will clean it right off.

    Can’t speak to fancy stuff or all polymers, but on classic milspec stuff is fine.

    So can’t use resale as an excuse. ;-)

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    I have some that are painted ALL flat white. One issue with clear coats, that I don’t like is they are glossy and are like a signal mirror even the “Satin” clear coat is to glossy for me. One thing I have done is, go ahead and do the clear seal coats. Then after a few weeks of drying, I do a dusting of a few colors, just to knock off the shine.

    More and more, we are using solid color “Duck Tape”. Not the camo duck tape, it ends up looking like a solid color, but brown and green and light tan, etc. We even use white duck tape in the winter, which is about five months.

    The truth is that here, only a lot of white works in the winter, and even a light colored desert camo pattern stands out. And in the summer here any color that is NOT white works as long as it is flat. I think busy como patterns are for the eye candy of the owner, and big areas of roughly 5″ to 7″ chunks of earth tone works well, it is not sexy to the owners eye, but works. We use push-button QR sling swivels, and you need to not get paint inside of those.

    Study the wild animals in your area to see what works. Especially the large animals. The small animals do tend to have a busy como pattern, but the animals that are man size generally are just two colors.

    #39993
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    here is a link on cerakote: https://www.cerakoteguncoatings.com/finishes/C-241Q/od-green/

    $35. I did 3 full rifles with a “tester” size.

    Many colors to chose from: https://www.cerakoteguncoatings.com/finishes/?tab=coatings&cat=CSERIES

    You can apply like spray paint with a cheap aerosol sprayer, let air dry, and profit.

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    here is a link on cerakote: https://www.cerakoteguncoatings.com/finishes/C-241Q/od-green/

    $35. I did 3 full rifles with a “tester” size.

    Many colors to chose from: https://www.cerakoteguncoatings.com/finishes/?tab=coatings&cat=CSERIES

    You can apply like spray paint with a cheap aerosol sprayer, let air dry, and profit.

    Single color?

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    #40015
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    One of the best paints you can use is Aervoe. Brownells sells it. Do a search for it on the web and look at the difference between it and Krylon.

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    #40017
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    Thank you for all the replies and information…….again, worth the entry fee…..

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    Strength, Honor. Maximus (Gladiator)

    If you tolerate evil, you yourself are evil.
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    #40040
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    I just did a base of OD green, then krylon on that. You can do multiple layers if you like I suppose, never tried it

    here is a link on cerakote: https://www.cerakoteguncoatings.com/finishes/C-241Q/od-green/

    $35. I did 3 full rifles with a “tester” size.

    Many colors to chose from: https://www.cerakoteguncoatings.com/finishes/?tab=coatings&cat=CSERIES

    You can apply like spray paint with a cheap aerosol sprayer, let air dry, and profit.

    Single color?

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    #40053
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    The best OTS spray paint I’ve personally tried was Majic Oil Base camo paint from Tractor Supply:
    http://www.tractorsupply.com/tsc/product/majic-camouflage-spray-paint-12-oz-olive-drab

    It takes forever and a day to dry so be patient, but the colors are great and it sticks forever. You will notice the much thicker consistency vs. your typical enamels like Krylon.

    @Pinky that is some great info there. Bookmarked.

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    #40227
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    Has anybody tried Hydrodipping? I see kits online as low as $59.

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    #42547
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    This is Aervoe Field Drab. I like the color a lot. This picture was just taken a few minutes ago, with paint still wet. It should lighten up just a bit when dry.

    Do I really need to add other colors? I kinda like it as-is.

    #42553
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    http://aervoe.com/paints_coatings/Military-Vehicle-and-Recreation-Camouflage-Paint.html

    You can also purchase the paint directly from Aervoe by the case, but they charge you a pretty penny for shipping.

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