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  • #63607
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    Joe (G.W.N.S.)
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    Live Updates: Democratic Leaders Receive Mail Bombs

    Excerpt:

    Law enforcement agencies have intercepted suspicious packages and confirmed explosive devices addressed to top Democratic figures such as George Soros, Barack Obama, and Bill and Hillary Clinton.

    I put this Thread in the Lounge since my initial impression is its a Socialist fake.

    Obviously I have no evidence, just a suspicion.

    There have been numerous attempts at various fake hate like crimes that were exposed by LEA’s.

    Even if real the pictures released so far are extremely crude devices.

    If any quality information surfaces I’ll address this further.

    #63608
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    Robert
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    Remember right after obummer got elected and there was this ridiculous story in the media about the feds busting two “white supremacists” with their plan to wear WHITE tuxedos (with tails never the less), WHITE top hats and drive a WHITE limo to DC to try to whack out obummer….. Liberals have some crazy ass childish minds if you ask me….

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    #63609
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    Joe (G.W.N.S.)
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    That’s part of what makes me so sceptical about this.

    It just seems off in all known information.

    Add all of the insane things Socialists try this just seems like something out of their playbook.

    Of course we’ll see what comes from an actual investigation. ;-)

    #63614
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    First Sergeant
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    I believe that his is a “false flag” set up by the left to garner sympathy before the elections.

    Just a gut feeling.

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    #63617
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    Joe (G.W.N.S.)
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    “false flag”

    Most in my area aren’t buying it.

    I am not talking extremists either, but regular country folk.

    Things have changed in what people will believe, much more scepticism.

    #63618
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    Joe (G.W.N.S.)
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    NBC is now reporting with certainty that the sticker on the device received by CNN is a “Larry the Cable Guy”-themed parody of an ISIS flag logo.

    This makes me think Socialist creation even more, they see all who oppose them to be a ignorant “Larry” type!

    Note: This is not analysis, but speculative discussion. We get any real information I’ll report in a different format.

    #63621
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    ffhounddog
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    Something that seems particularly telling (aside from the photos themselves) is the fact that while it checked every box on the bomb threat matrix, it also did not seem to have the stamps cancelled out, which means it was not delivered by, and/or processed through the USPS. This would mean the shitbag hand delivered it, or had someone else hand deliver it.

    The photos themselves certainly seem suspect to me as well. They absolutely do not appear to have been taken by any kind of forensic investigator or criminal investigative photographer. They are poorly lit, and taken from horrible angles in addition to all the above noted issues. So if they weren’t detonated, and the photos weren’t taken by a bomb tech or investigator, who took them? Journalists? If that’s the case, why? Since when is evidence in a supposed “terrorist incident” given to the media within mere hours of the incident itself?

    There is certainly a lot to process, and it’s hard to not see this as either a false flag or fringe idiot incident rather than outright terrorism. I do also find it interesting that this was quickly, and without hesitation, labeled terrorism, while those incidents in which there is a known religious nut screaming aloha snackbar while shooting, stabbing or blowing people up is simply a lone wolf or mental disorder.

    I’m interested to see where this goes. I am hopeful they will find the subject and the political drama that has become the “days of our lives” will continue. Its honestly like watching an episode of Jerry Springer or Maury playing out in real life everyday.

    Support Side. Not flattering but better than weak side.

    #63622
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    joe m
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    I’m not sure I have any faith that the FBI can or will conduct a fair impartial investigation. Remember the anthrax mess after 9/11? They almost destroyed one mans life and had to give him buckets of our money to settle his civil suit. Then the fellow they now name as the bad guy conveniently offs himself so there is no trial with presentation of evidence before a jury. But trust us we’re Special Agents, we wouldn’t lie.

    #63626
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    Virgil Kane
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    I believe that his is a “false flag” set up by the left to garner sympathy before the elections.

    Just a gut feeling.

    That’s what I think too. There are cave dwellers in Afghanistan making bombs with cell phones and this has a kitchen timer and was sent through the mail? Horse shit.

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    #63627
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    Sam Brady
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    I second the idea that this is a false flag operation. Why send mail bombs to people that dont open their own mail?
    Its just too pat…first a magic caravan for Trump to use force against, then a coordinated attack against the wonderful “democratic leaders?”
    Even though I have no proof, I believe this is coordinated….

    #63630
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    wheelsee
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    Even though I have no proof, I believe this is coordinated….

    If it looks like a duck, acts like a duck, and quacks like a duck…..it’s a duck til proven otherwise…….

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    #63633
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    Joe (G.W.N.S.)
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    I am encouraged to hear the scepticism here.

    I suspect due to the nature of the device used and method of delivery it won’t take long to find source.

    Of course there are many possibilities and we’ll keep a open mind regardless.

    #63634
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    Robert
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    4Chan Trolls Mock ‘False Flag’ Bomb Scare By Making Parody ‘Bombs’ Of Their Own

    Check out the parody of the mail bombs, absolutely hillarious!

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    #63639
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    ffhounddog
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    According to my friend an BATF agent who is in NY was briefed that the device sent to CNN couldn’t actually have blown up because it was not equipped with a blasting cap or other means of detonating explosive material.
    There was nothing there to ignite it.

    Support Side. Not flattering but better than weak side.

    #63641
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    Max
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    According to my friend an BATF agent who is in NY

    Zionist globalist United Nations Shill! You are outed! :wacko: :wacko: :scratch:

    But on a more serious note, I had a laugh at those fake bombs at the link above. :yahoo: :yahoo: :yahoo: :yahoo: :yahoo: :yahoo:

    #63650
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    Sam Brady
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    Here is what I am thinking,
    The pipe bombs appear to be inert, i.e., no credible fusing system. If you send a mail bomb it has to be rigged to detonate when opened. Timers, etc are not really going to work…as I already stated these seem to have been sent to people that dont open there own mail…it appears this is more of a publicity stunt that a purposeful effort to terrorize…
    The majority of the bombs were mailed to prominent democrats, except for one…Bernie Sanders. Bernie was left out for some reason.
    All return addresses are for Debbie Wasserman Schultz. She was the chair of the democratic party when they pushed Bernie Sanders aside…seems odd that he did not receive one of the packages…unless its one of his supporters that made them in the first place! Time and a couple of good breaks will tell the story.

    #63652
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    Joe (G.W.N.S.)
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    Here is what I am thinking,

    I agree with your assessment

    Time and a couple of good breaks will tell the story.

    The only way I see this taking any significant time to find bomber(s) is if this was done by professionals.

    Professionals?

    As a propaganda stunt by certain elements for its spin value with no actual threat to bystanders of the so called targets.

    Concerns over certain elements within the FBI conducting a solid investigation are overblown. This is too high profile with far too many different Agents involved. Sure a few here and there, but I don’t believe the FBI is that corrupted yet among rank and file.

    #63653
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    First Sergeant
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    Here is what I am thinking,
    The pipe bombs appear to be inert, i.e., no credible fusing system. If you send a mail bomb it has to be rigged to detonate when opened. Timers, etc are not really going to work…as I already stated these seem to have been sent to people that dont open there own mail…it appears this is more of a publicity stunt that a purposeful effort to terrorize…
    The majority of the bombs were mailed to prominent democrats, except for one…Bernie Sanders. Bernie was left out for some reason.
    All return addresses are for Debbie Wasserman Schultz. She was the chair of the democratic party when they pushed Bernie Sanders aside…seems odd that he did not receive one of the packages…unless its one of his supporters that made them in the first place! Time and a couple of good breaks will tell the story.

    That is a big red flag.

    Remember the guy that shot up the congressional baseball practice? A Bernie supporter.

    I am no way no how an expert by any stretch on IED’s, but I have seen a few live ones and mock ups for training. When I first saw the pictures of the devices they just seemed off. I realize that really good bomb makers can make devices seem “safe” when they really aren’t.

    There are to many things that say “I am going to try and scare everyone but I am not really going to hurt anyone.”

    For this next part I am going to have to tighten the tin foil down really tight. Say whoever did this really knows their stuff and all of this was to see what the reaction was and the next devices are real.

    Like probing a defensive position to see what kind of reaction you are going to get before the attack goes in.

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    #63679
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    Keeper
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    AGREE

    These were meant to be found,
    if they were real it would not have gone though the mail

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    #63680
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    RobRoy
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    PR stunt by a crazy progtard, same O same O shite different day, stir the crazy progs into a screeching hissy fit of fake moralism, intimidate the normie centrists and have the right wing goobers who crave respectability grovel and grovel some more. (of course they grovel since no one listens to their expertise in the midst of the latest moral panic)

    #63700
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    Joe (G.W.N.S.)
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    Regardless of the facts the tinfoil community is going to have a field day with this! ;-)

    I admit the limited information available seems more like a caricature than a real person.

    #63719
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    Joe (G.W.N.S.)
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    It will be interesting to see what effect it has on midterms, I suspect it will have less impact than media hopes despite their efforts to make it a “big deal.”

    Will this potentially embolden a left-wing “nutcase” into a reprisal?

    #63759
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    gramma
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    EH. I’m just a lit ole’ country girl. Don’t know nuthin’ about IEDs or bombs, Mz. Scarlett… but even I didn’t see anything lethal. Or functional. And as far as the patsy they found to hang this on – maybe he is a nutjob; maybe he was pushed to do this.

    Either way, a lot has been made out of this that fits the convenient narrative. But as far as I’m concerned it’s all BS. Took the attention off the caravans, didn’t it?

    Psy-Ops is the name of the game right now. I may not be able to run & gun with you guys now, given my age… but this kinda crap really chaps my ass. Do these idjits think we were born yesterday? Wish I knew who instigated this; location, people, etc. That might be within my capability.

    #63760
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    Joe (G.W.N.S.)
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    …but even I didn’t see anything lethal.

    I suspect that some of this has to do with prosecution.

    Say there was some black powder in PVC pipe with no way to ignite device.

    Shipping black powder (or any flammable) without proper declaration and following hazmat shipping regulations is still illegal.

    If you start saying device wasn’t functional I imagine it would not be in prosecutions interest for more serious crime convictions.

    At this point there are plenty of issues that need to be resolved, between serious investigations for fact and true tinfoil believe anything nuts this is not a easy situation to resolve.

    Many will never be happy regardless of outcome.

    Took the attention off the caravans, didn’t it?

    Maybe, but this Pittsburgh shooting has overshadowed both!

    For how long?

    Who knows. ;-)

    Wonder what’s next?

    #63768
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    Roadkill
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    Isn’t the static electricity from the pvc enough to set off block powder? Unless grounded when putting them together I would think there’s a pretty good chance of lighting yourself up.

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    #63785
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    First Sergeant
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    Isn’t the static electricity from the pvc enough to set off block powder? Unless grounded when putting them together I would think there’s a pretty good chance of lighting yourself up.

    Theoretically yes. I have not seen any reports verifying by name what was used.

    I get that some out there believe the reports automatically that this guy acted alone with no help at all. That he was a die hard right wing guy. Bullshit. This whole thing is to neat and to convenient.

    The stuff on that van is dead giveaway. All that stuff is placed to neat and to perfect. All that was done by a guy that was living in that van? Where did he get the money? Where was it all printed into stickers to apply to the windows. Every single window was covered except the drivers side and windshield. With all of that, no one vandalized his van? In today’s political environment?

    Once is an accident. Twice is a coincidence. Three times is an enemy action.

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    #63796
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    Joe (G.W.N.S.)
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    This whole thing is to neat and to convenient.

    I too still lean this way also, evidence shouldn’t be too difficult to find to prove or disprove. I want to see more details, statements alone are insufficient.

    With all of that, no one vandalized his van? In today’s political environment?

    This is a excellent point, this area of Florida is a very Left leaning and we’ve seen vehicles burned to the ground over a couple of Trump bumper stickers.

    Some of the tinfoil theories are out there, but some need legitimate answers.

    Much more is needed to satisfy me, but it is early in the investigation.

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