Small Unit Tactics contact patriot-dawn Patriot Rising

Post-Election Predictions?

Home Forums The Lounge Post-Election Predictions?

This topic contains 18 replies, has 7 voices, and was last updated by Profile photo of Keeper aka "Sun Shine" Keeper 2 months, 3 weeks ago.

Viewing 19 posts - 1 through 19 (of 19 total)
  • Author
    Posts
  • #63975
    Profile photo of Joe (G.W.N.S.)
    Joe (G.W.N.S.)
    Moderator

    So Republicans control Presidency, Senate, and in theory a more conservative Supreme Court.

    What happens now?

    #63977
    Profile photo of Abacus
    Abacus
    Participant

    There will likely be a lot more useless impeachment silliness and posturing in the house. Past that expect a lot of gridlock and grandstanding. It will mean good bussiness for propagandist and findraisers though.

    If the newly minted Democrat house pulls the same useless symbolic votes on gun right restrictions that the Republicans did over Obamacare, firearms sales may go up. Maybe some folks will get worried and pushed out of the post Trump prepper slump. That would be good for Max.

    I do wonder of the legislative gains will move the #resistance more towards arguing over how bad non-progs are in the house with words and silly gestures versus on the street with bricks and pipes. I doubt it, but I really wish that their probably limited victory would lull them back into some level of complacency. Given that the presidential election just started this morning, I am sure that 2020 will be “the most important election like EVAR!” It probably won’t happen. Hate is a powerful motivator. It’s even more powerful than fear.

    Gridlock is a feature not a bug in our system. The whole constitution is largely about restricting government from doing stuff. Keeping the powers that be arguing and bickering means they can’t do as much bad stuff. Sure it means some of the things I do want like NFA reform, unrestricting suppressors, and concealed carry reciprocity won’t happen. But those are all wedge issues and would be a long shot with anything shy of a California style single party rule. But the coming gridlock also means some of the things I don’t want also won’t happen like national level rights restrictions. Fewer new laws and regulations are better than bad laws and regulations. It is not like we ever get any of the bad ideas foisted on us repealed.

    It will however make my job harder since we will be back to the bad old days when budgeting just won’t happen and the DoD will just flail around from CR to CR. But that is the way it has beeny entire career so far with only the most recent cycle being different.

    Keeping the Senate is nice as it makes appointments a bit less of a hassle.

    A portion of the typos in the above message might be my phone, the rest are just me.

    I have been wrong before...

    #63981
    Profile photo of RampantRaptor
    rampantraptor
    Participant

    It actually makes sense that the GOP bolstered their control of the Senate while they lost the House. Trump’s strategy of appealing to rural voters means he has a disproportionate advantage in the Senate where rural states have more sway than in the House, where seats are appointed by population. (This is also how he won the presidency, since the Electoral College gives more sway to rural voters than the popular vote does.) I’m wondering if this will become increasingly normal in future elections going forward as the Dems become the party of urban and minority voters and the GOP becomes a white, rural party, if so we should expect more divided Congresses and more gridlock.

    Not that I think the further exaggeration of the urban-rural divide is beneficial for national unity, of course. The GOP will also still be screwed in 20 or so years as the country diversifies further, assuming we still haveNot that I think the further exaggeration of the urban-rural divide is beneficial for national unity, of course. The GOP will also still be screwed in 20 or so years as the country diversifies further. a country, of course.

    Honestly as long as the Dems don’t seize power altogether I don’t expect any major changes. If the GOP was screwing around with controversy after controversy too much to deregulate suppressors or push for CCW reciprocity this last legislative session I have no reason to believe they would’ve done it next time either.

    #RaqqaSummer2017
    - - -
    Jîn, Jiyan, Azadî

    #63984
    Profile photo of Joe (G.W.N.S.)
    Joe (G.W.N.S.)
    Moderator

    If the newly minted Democrat house pulls the same useless symbolic votes on gun right restrictions that the Republicans did over Obamacare, firearms sales may go up. Maybe some folks will get worried and pushed out of the post Trump prepper slump. That would be good for Max.

    It will be interesting how House proceeds next year, it certainly doesn’t take much for the fear motivated to get spooked.

    Gridlock is a feature not a bug in our system.

    If no legislation gets passed it won’t bother me one bit. ;-)

    But that is the way it has been my entire career so far with only the most recent cycle being different.

    quote

    A far cry from the Reagan era post-Carter build up for sure.

    …still be screwed in 20 or so years…

    Your right, but I can’t imagine us going that long without some “Event” causing drastic change.

    Basically we’ll be screwed long before that IMHO. ;-)

    #63985
    Profile photo of Joe (G.W.N.S.)
    Joe (G.W.N.S.)
    Moderator

    Something that the establishment Democrats are seemingly unaware of is the monster they have created!

    Young Socialist Freshman in Congress and their Base are not going to be as easily contained as in the past. These young idealistic Socialists are expecting more than symbolism.

    When Pelosi and those like her try to politic according to their traditional methods I suspect pushback will occur against the Establishment within the Democrat Party!

    It will look great for awhile, but it won’t take long for patience to run out.

    Expectations are high and the absence of a “Blue Wave” will be blamed on Democrats as much as Republicans.

    This is the danger of propaganda when it hits reality.

    Side note: Sessions just resigned as Attorney General at President Trumps request!

    #63992
    Profile photo of RampantRaptor
    rampantraptor
    Participant
    Your right, but I can’t imagine us going that long without some “Event” causing drastic change.

    Basically we’ll be screwed long before that IMHO. ;-)

    Meant to add the possibility we might not exist as a country in 20 years as a caveat, was heading to bed and seems I forgot to finish my edit lol.

    #RaqqaSummer2017
    - - -
    Jîn, Jiyan, Azadî

    #63994
    Profile photo of Joe (G.W.N.S.)
    Joe (G.W.N.S.)
    Moderator

    Meant to add the possibility we might not exist as a country in 20 years as a caveat…

    :good:

    As a sidenote my concern when I post comments regarding the dark future I see for our nation; particularly with new members, is it being viewed as typical “doom and gloom” nonsense so common today.

    I am actually very optimistic in the long-term!

    Unfortunately in order to get there we will have to overcome some very difficult times. I prepare to increase odds of a favorable outcome.

    Our Nation’s successful founding was a unprecedented event, building something worth having from the ashes post-event will be equally unprecedented.

    #64117
    Profile photo of Joe (G.W.N.S.)
    Joe (G.W.N.S.)
    Moderator

    Something that the establishment Democrats are seemingly unaware of is the monster they have created!

    Young Socialist Freshman in Congress and their Base are not going to be as easily contained as in the past. These young idealistic Socialists are expecting more than symbolism.

    Ocasio-Cortez Joins Crowd of Youth Protesters at Nancy Pelosi’s Office

    Excerpt:

    Rep.-elect Alexandria Ocasio Cortez joined more than 200 youth activists in storming the office of House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi Tuesday morning in order to get her to act on climate change.

    Capitol police stated 51 protesters had been arrested after unlawfully demonstrating outside Pelosi’s office in the Cannon House Office Building.

    #64234
    Profile photo of Joe (G.W.N.S.)
    Joe (G.W.N.S.)
    Moderator

    Here is another example…

    Young Socialist Freshman in Congress and their Base are not going to be as easily contained as in the past. These young idealistic Socialists are expecting more than symbolism.

    …it will be interesting to watch this infighting and who retains/gains control.

    Ocasio Cortez Launches Far Left “Justice Democrats” – Calls for Overthrow of Incumbent Democrats

    Rep-elect Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez joined a conference call for the newly formed “Justice Democrats” on Saturday.

    The radical far left group called on supporters to start planning their campaigns against incumbent Democrats.

    The Hill reported:

    Rep.-elect Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez (D-N.Y.), implored more than 700 attendees of a Justice Democrats strategy call to run for office against incumbent Democrats as well as Republicans in their home districts.

    During the video call with supporters Saturday evening, Ocasio-Cortez remarked that her own journey to the House began on the other end of a Justice Democrats strategy call while calling on supporters to mount similar bids in their own districts around the country.

    “Long story short, I need you to run for office,” she said on the call. “All I’m asking you to do is throw your hat in the ring, say ‘what the heck.’ ”

    Ocasio-Cortez was elected Tuesday after running a successful primary against Rep. Joe Crowley, who was House Democratic Caucus Chairman.

    The incoming freshman Democrat added that she and other members of the Justice Democrats, a group of progressive Democrats seeking to shift the Democratic Party left, would support challenges to incumbent Democrats they view as insufficiently aligned with the views of progressives in the party, particularly on the issue of corporate campaign donations.

    It’s probably too much to hope for, but there is potential for such infighting to buy more time through disorganization. ;-)

    #64245
    Profile photo of BrigandActual
    BrigandActual
    Participant

    It’s only a matter of time before the progressive purity police “other-ize“ too many from even team blue.

    I have some pretty liberal activist coworkers who are starting to complain that these groups can’t just keep labeling everyone else as nazis/bigots/potential mass murders and expect to make headway.

    I’m the end, if they succeed, they are going to dump a whole lot of traditional team-blue voters into the independent pool where there is a whole lot less pressure to vote by party lines.

    "Man is still the first weapon of war" - Field Marshal Montgomery

    Matt B - VA

    #64254
    Profile photo of RobRoy
    RobRoy
    Participant

    We really don’t know. The D party if you read their blogs where the activists congregate to get their narrative rely on the notion and term “Common enemy” and you can guess who that is.

    Once that common enemy is removed they get to fighting for the spoils. Take Chicago for instance, a one party city that has under gone serious political and physical warfare for the past half decade. While conservatives are great at flapping their arms and tough talk the D party in Chicago has been engaged in a death match struggle between the old black establishment and the Rahm Emanuel lead liberals. First it went for Rahm and now the black political establishment has taken his scalp.

    Today we conservatives are labeled with the political rhetoric of “nazi” “racist” and other names, but come the collapse of the scam called conservatism the Left will suddenly find us as useful allies.

    Bracken’s Cube ain’t got nothing on our future IMO.

    #64278
    Profile photo of Keeper aka "Sun Shine"
    Keeper
    Participant

    Twenty years from now it will be all BLUE,
    The Dems are actively recruiting the young and promising the world to them. Same as Obama did. same favor just different way to sell it. Once the Dem are in control they will make it impossible to change.
    Why our generation are the worker who pay the tax’s and support the country and the snowflake don’t support or more or less pay into the system.
    want an example look at China and Russia
    Got in power took the guns away changed the rules and now control everything. The people have no way to fight back. Can’t vote them out can’t over throw them.

    As uncle Joe Stalin once said : the people who cast the vote decide nothing its the people who count the votes who decide everything.

    There nothing we can do as long as the young want everything and don’t expect to have to pay for it.
    You got Socialist Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez in DC now who is young and passing the good word about everything that the DEMs are going to do for you by giving away everything to get you to vote Blue.

    It’s coming and it can’t be stopped by voting.
    only by force can it be stopped.

    Alumni living in N.E Fla. for now. Going to retire in Iowa on the farm some day soon.

    #64300
    Profile photo of First Sergeant
    First Sergeant
    Moderator

    We really don’t know. The D party if you read their blogs where the activists congregate to get their narrative rely on the notion and term “Common enemy” and you can guess who that is.

    Once that common enemy is removed they get to fighting for the spoils. Take Chicago for instance, a one party city that has under gone serious political and physical warfare for the past half decade. While conservatives are great at flapping their arms and tough talk the D party in Chicago has been engaged in a death match struggle between the old black establishment and the Rahm Emanuel lead liberals. First it went for Rahm and now the black political establishment has taken his scalp.

    Today we conservatives are labeled with the political rhetoric of “nazi” “racist” and other names, but come the collapse of the scam called conservatism the Left will suddenly find us as useful allies.

    Bracken’s Cube ain’t got nothing on our future IMO.

    It’s called “The othering”. Same thing that was done to the Untermensch by the 3rd Reich. Turn you into something to be hated, despised and gotten rid of. Enough of the left have already come out and said that we, you and me, need to be either killed or put in “re-education camps”. The political leadership of the left and the so called “media” don’t renounce it.

    Something else I am starting to see, gun owners coming out and admitting they are D’s. Some even admitting to voting for Clinton for President. They don’t believe that they will be affected by a gun ban. This also goes for people in the firearms industry, either as writers, bloggers or trainers.

    FILO
    Signal out, can you identify.
    Je ne regrette rien...
    Klagt Nicht, Kämpft

    #64310
    Profile photo of RobRoy
    RobRoy
    Participant

    Democratic blue voting gun owners are legion. Walk into any well stocked Chicago area gun store and there will be a clean cut black lady buying a Glock, never fails.

    Conservatives are just hapless arm flappers and tough talkers, the stooges for political theatre.

    When a libtard talks about gun confiscation I always ask the question are they going to disarm men of color of their Glocks (truly a religous totem amongst Black men). Let the D party base fight amongst themselves.

    #64311
    Profile photo of RobRoy
    RobRoy
    Participant

    If anyone wants to read some good gun porn Larry Correia famous writer has a piece out about that idiot Swalwell’s nuke comment.

    Entertainment mostly, the usual tough talk and arm flappery that excites the connedservatives, then they buy books about the great resistance to tyranny while waiting for the government checks.

    The most germane portion of Larry’s writing is the boil the frog strategy the D party uses. First they own and operate literally a multi-trillion dollar propaganda outfit that will turn every non D voting gun owner into the worst “ist” anti-social “ism” believer of “phobias” about the great gunless future, and from there you become the social outcasts. All the while D voters are literally flashing Glocks at the cops in the blue cities.

    #64313
    Profile photo of Keeper aka "Sun Shine"
    Keeper
    Participant

    Democratic blue voting gun owners are legion. Walk into any well stocked Chicago area gun store and there will be a clean cut black lady buying a Glock, never fails.””

    I don’t think there are any more active gun stores left in Chicago. I think the last closed last year,, according to the blogs I read

    Alumni living in N.E Fla. for now. Going to retire in Iowa on the farm some day soon.

    #64315
    Profile photo of Joe (G.W.N.S.)
    Joe (G.W.N.S.)
    Moderator

    …are just hapless arm flappers and tough talkers, the stooges for political theatre.

    This applies to the vast majority of people regardless of ideology! ;-)

    #64331
    Profile photo of RobRoy
    RobRoy
    Participant

    Being a bit familiar with Chicago AREA gun stores my hypothesis stands. I won’t mention the suburban area mega gun store but nearly every time I went in to browse a Glock would be bought by a woman with clearly little interest in firearms. In Cook county the gun charges against a certain demographic of D party voters are thrown out and then the drug charges are plea dealed so the perp gets a year or two instead of the mandatory mins for gun charges.

    So when a Prog bangs on and on about our “assault rifles” they are banging on us not guns that their political base owns. Tucker Carlson proved that by interviewing the Georgia Communist candidate for governor the large and in charge Democrat when he asked why not ban semi automatic pistols instead of our carbines. She can be open in her malice towards us, we instead have to blather on about abstract principles of government to people who frankly don’t care.

    #64340
    Profile photo of Keeper aka "Sun Shine"
    Keeper
    Participant

    RobRoy
    I total agree with you on your post.I was just stating that I didn’t think there were any gun shops left there.
    I think the Dem who buys a fire arm will state that the gun laws don’t apply to them only to everyone else.

    Alumni living in N.E Fla. for now. Going to retire in Iowa on the farm some day soon.

Viewing 19 posts - 1 through 19 (of 19 total)

You must be logged in to reply to this topic.