January 19, 2016 at 6:26 pm #23925texasfredericbastiatParticipant
newish rig – battle belt with plate carrier. I’ve put about 20 miles rucking with this kit, done several crossfit type workouts with it, and tested it with different combinations of rucks and pouches. This is probably the 10th iteration of me changing out pouches, eliminating velcro, and adding capability to it. I will still likely make some more changes in adding some chem lights to the plate carrier.
When i say 20 miles – thats on a treadmill at home in 2-3 mile increments at threshold pace, so that i can jack it up to 15 degrees elevation and wear all the kit with helmet and rifle, without getting the neighbors calling the cops on me.
The Plate carrier- SKD special STT plate carrier – First spear model with the tubes (eliminates the velcro noise, at the expense of some MOLLE real estate).
Plate carrier has 3 HSGI mag pouches up front (AK OR AR), and three shingles on the cumerbund on each side. I usually only have 1 or two mags per side, especially if I’ve got a ruck without a hip belt on. The plate carrier also has a fixed blade ESEE knife on it, and an admin pouch with the magnetic velcro covers. The admin pouch has a smoke grenade, rite-in-the-rain notebook with pen, pencil, sharpie, plus a compass, signal mirror, piece of moleskin, and SERE kit (lock picks and survival card from readyman, plus a bic lighter that would go into my trouser pockets). The admin pouch has a piece of shock cord (bungee/elastic), to hold my FLIR in place at night so it doesnt bounce around when im shooting with PVS-14 and laser.
The plate carrier also has a FERRO concepts dangler pouch, that has an IFAK in it – tourniquet, OLAES bandage, chest seal, chest dart, NPA, smaller pressure bandage, some duct tape, and some gloves. All of this is redundant with what’s on the battle belt, so if needed i could empty it, remove the cross patch and put mission-essential kit in it like binoculars, or a small pistol, or some snacks, whatever. versatile kit, and an easy way to add an IFAK without the side bulk on cummerbunds. It doesnt move when i sprint, and doesnt get in the way in the prone, or when doing burpees, box jumps, pullups, etc. If i am wearing a pack with a hip belt the buckle rides behind it. (yes, it gets very crowded with the battle belt, hip belt, and ruck). I also have some BFG tenspeed single pistol mags on either side of the admin pouch that can hold multitools or pistol mags if need be. MOst of the time they sit empty, especially my right shoulder, as i end up bumping it when i am practicing dry fire if it has a glock mag in it. I shoulder the stock outside of the plate carrier though, so it’s doable even if loaded. Just a little slower than without a plate carrier on. I’ve got armor wear plates in it, which are level III+, and only 3.2 lbs each or something. I keep some paracord cuffs in the rear most pockets inplace of zip ties, for space reasons.
Note that when i have 9 mags in the plate carrier it’s possible to access the rear-most mags on t he plate carrier, but difficult. I usually only have the first one on the side loaded, and sometimes two. I will likely be replacing that space with a chemlight holder, as mentioned previously.
Plate carrier – 3-9 AR or AK mags, lots of sweat stains.
Battle belt – this is a velocity systems operator belt, with:
– Front left is tourniquet,
– HSGI double decker taco, single pistol taco and double rifle taco (total of 2 glock 17 mags, 3 AR pmags or AK mags)
– Radio pouch – radio or two PMAGs, with a dump pouch added on as needed with a swift clip
– Rear flat general purpose – kifaru zipper pouch containing gorilla tape, paracord cuffs, survival kit with water drops, lighter, titanium spork, ferro rod, cordage, clif bar, oil/lube bottle for gun, cr123 battery, a headlamp, (all of that is in the little zipper) plus a multicam face wrap/gaiter that sits on top for easy access.
– IFAK –tear off – NPA, chest sealx2, OLAES 4”, gloves, decompression needle, tape, gauze
– RTI mounted glock pistol with TLR-1HL light in T-REX arms ragnarok
– Multi tool front right in HSGI pistol taco
– Empty BFG tenspeed elastic single magazine size pouch – for an extra pistol mag or to move multitool to fit a smoke grenade in HSGI pistol taco
I dont have a good picture of the rucks i use, but right now im testing a mystery ranch 3 day assault pack with hip belt, and a attack pak ruck that i cut the straps off, replaced with a hill people gear yoke, and modified a bit more with some additional compression straps and a HPG bobbed pack frame and stay. The attack pak ruck’s hip belt is actually a battle belt thats beefier and has more GP… (but it sits a little too high on the hips for load bearing while using plate carrier… still in treadmill testing phase)
– Shelter: XL Poncho/MVT shield, green reflective casualty blanket. Woobie /HPG mtn serape. ¾ length inflatable pad, bug head net, inflatable pillow
– Water: 3L wtr bladder, a nalgene, and an MSR dromedary for hauling more water.
– Water filtration/purification: first need elite XLE filter
– Snivel Gear: beanie, wool top, multicam wind jacket, camo leg gaiters, If rainy – rain jacket. If very cold – puffy insulating layer, knuckle roaster
– Spare Clothes: waterproof bag with 3 spare socks, spare undershirt (wool or poly), spare boxers, [lowpro earth tone pants & shirt to sleep in]
– Medical : Small boo-boo kit, pill pack, triangular bandage, ace wrap, tape, moleskin, bandaids, needle and thread, safety pins
– Food: stripped MREs, jerky, energy bars, tiny stove, freeze dried meal bags, lighter, fire starting kit, spork, metal cup, folding stove with heaters
– Hygiene: Toilet paper, bug spray, wet wipes, toothbrush and paste, camp soap, towel, footpowder, body glide
– Tools: Etool, folding saw, file, gun cleaning kit (bore snakes, rag, lube), stakes, cordage, bungees
– Optics: PVS-14 in hard case, Team Wendy ExFil ballistic helmet or crye nightcap, with rhino 2 mount
– Comms: DTR, possibly other radios like GMRS or HAM, with respective fancy antennas and other kit as needed.
– Reloads: up to 8 pmags in outside mag pouches on ruck
– Other/Optional: solar charger, battery charger, rechargeable batteries to feed PVS-14, radio, lights, etc.
– Add-ons: Dump pouch, stuff sack ready to expand load as needed or stash supplies (jacket, serape)
my list for the ruck is longer than Diz’s that he posted elsewhere, primarily because it’s necessary to have a full change of clothes for sleeping, and a water filter in my AO, otherwise i die quickly of dehydration and never sleep due to sweat.
I have a small RE FACTOR compactible/crushable/packable day pack that i use for ‘assault pack needs’ that holds a water bottle, some snacks, a beanie, PVS-14 in hard case with crye nightcap, poncho, etc. Super lightweight kit.
after my ruck run today on the treadmill i got on the scale- the plate carrier, battle belt, and boots (lowa) weights 37lbs total. Rucks, when loaded with all that stuff is around 50lbs. I’m in good shape and young, and have no problems getting up and down, jumping, lunging, kneeling, getting into prone, sprinting, doing pullups (with only fighting kit, can’t quite get chest to bar with ruck also).
This system has been a manageable way for me to get a battle belt for comfort and usability – standalone the battle belt has IFAK, mags, pistol, etc, and is light enough to not need suspenders, and is comfortable over whatever layers i have on. The plate carrier is lightweight enough that i dont need extra padding on the shoulder straps, and they are comfortable together. The dangler doesnt get in they way, flop around, or slow me down. The pouches on the belt dont slam into the cumerbund mags when sprinting or diving into prone when practicing individual movement techniques. The plate carrier is hot to wear, so i work my mental toughness by working out/training/PT outside, in the weather, year round. I get used to 110F summers and 10F windy ice winters. Man up.
I have other kits that are more low profile (see above post), plus others that have subloads and droplegs that work well with packs that utilize huge hip belts if i need to carry more weight in the ruck (50-100lbs). Realistically the only place i would ever wear this kit is in my backyard to train, on my treadmill to ruck, or at a training class.
The most likely kit i would be wearing in a collapse will be my every day carry glock 19 in appendix carry, with a clinch pick and spare mag.
For societal decline/underground partisal i will use soft armor, BFG ten speed belt pouches (two AR mags, two pistol mags), an ankle med kit from rogue gunfighter as an IFAK, an OWB glock pistol holster from raven concealment, a clinch pick up front, and possibly a multitool pouch, and the new Mosby/gadsden dynamics 4mag super low pro chest rig, when it comes out. The low pro kit fits under a sweatshirt without anyone knowing what’s up (If i think about it i will take a picture with it on)
Lots of options for gear. Lots of money goes into it. Learn from other people’s (my) mistakes, but realize that all your extra/old kit can be handed over to someone else in your tribe in a time of need.January 24, 2016 at 1:45 pm #24044JamisonParticipant
Well, I figure’d I could maybe add something to this forum. So here’s my medium belt rig.
I’ve used it in a single training class so far and I like it. from left to right (sorry for shitty picture) SOFTT-W TQ, Taco pouch, 2 double decker taco pouches, HSGI bleeder blowout pouch, grey ghost gear dump pouch. Rothco (Yeah, I know) water bottle pouch with 1L Nalgene, nesting cup; in the outer pouch, esbit stove with fuel tabs, a few starbucks instant coffee and hot chocolate mix, along with a few water purification tabs. G19 with milled Trijicon RDS in a Blade-tech WRS and a 4th Mag in a Taco pouch. This all rides on top of an HSGI battle belt with duty belt.
A few things I want to add is a pouch for flashlight and multitool, as well as a fixed blade knife, of which I’m not decided, It’ll probably be one of my TOPS knives, or I might run something different, I don’t know, I’m still trying to decide how I’m going to mount it.
I have a chest rig based off of a TT MAV that is going to be updated with MTV Versa whenever that comes back out. I might dig that out and take a pic, I used it over in Iraq in 04-05 and haven’t really updated it after I found what worked for me, so it’s time for a change.
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Nulla fatere. Nega omnia. Accusatis calumniatorem. Demanda probationem.February 10, 2016 at 6:26 pm #24519MaxKeymaster
I’m new, and I’m not exactly what you would call an operator, but this is what I have for training classes that I can hopefully go to soon now that I have a decent job to finance my excursions.
-TAG Phalanx type 4 chest rig with 4 AR mags, and 4 Glock mags.
-Canteen pouch used to hold misc. gear.
-med pouch, soon to be filled with ITS med kit.
– Hydration carrier with radio pouch.(the radio is really for fun, it holds my 2meter HAM.)
Under the chest rig, I have a TAG banshee Plate carrier holding some level III plates. Also not pictured, my glock 22 in a safariland holster with an extra double mag pouch that I run on my belt.September 19, 2017 at 6:07 am #50933KeeperParticipant
Making a post on the MVT versa Rig that I worn this last weekend at the Purgatory with 5 loaded 20rd PMAG (308). It held up well just darn heavy when its full of 308 ammo. I had to press the insert back against the Velcro backing for time to time other than that great piece of kit. wish the SOF four mag chest was back in production
Alumni living in N.E Fla. for now. Going to retire in Iowa on the farm some day soon.September 26, 2017 at 9:18 am #51150
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