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  • #64181
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    First Sergeant
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    Read the Congressmans comments. They don’t care anymore. The mask is off.

    Don’t tell me this was a joke. He knew damned well what he was saying.

    For those of you who don’t know, click on the highlighted date. It will take you to the thread on twitter. You don’t need an account.

    FILO
    Signal out, can you identify.
    Je ne regrette rien...
    Klagt Nicht, Kämpft

    #64182
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    Joe (G.W.N.S.)
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    Well First Sergeant beat me to it by a few minutes. :yes:

    Great minds huh!

    so I’ll merge mine with his! ;-)

    Democrat Eric Swalwell: If Gun Owners Defy ‘Assault Weapons’ Ban, ‘The Government Has Nukes’

    Rep. Eric Swalwell (D-CA) defended a potential “assault weapons” buyback Friday afternoon, saying that if gun owners defy a legislative ban, “the government has nukes.”

    The exchange began with conservative Twitter commentator Joe Biggs responding to a story on Swalwell’s Thursday op-ed in USA Today, titled “Ban assault weapons, buy them back, go after resisters.” “@RepSwalwell wants a war,” Biggs wrote. “Because that’s what you would get.”

    Swalwell responded by noting the government’s nuclear arsenal, writing: “And it would be a short war my friend. The government has nukes. Too many of them. But they’re legit. I’m sure if we talked we could find common ground to protect our families and communities.”

    Swalwell responded by noting the government’s nuclear arsenal, writing: “And it would be a short war my friend. The government has nukes. Too many of them. But they’re legit. I’m sure if we talked we could find common ground to protect our families and communities.”

    Biggs responded by asking, “So our government would nuke its own country in order to take guns? Wow.”

    Swalwell countered by asking Biggs to quit being “dramatic” about the casual reference to weapons of mass destruction:

    On May 21, 2018, Breitbart News reported that Swalwell pushed an “assault weapons” ban that would be based on buybacks with criminal charges for those who did not comply. A similar buyback was used by the Australia government.

    :wacko:

    Well at least it’s motivational for the fear types.

    #64185
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    Joe (G.W.N.S.)
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    So let’s take a look at how a major firearms ban could pass.

    Obviously they can get a bill through Congress.

    The Senate in theory could stop it, but a few socialist Republicans joining the “bipartisan” effort could be successful.

    Remember it was Republican Bob Dole that allowed the first AWB!

    Would like to think President Trump would veto and it’s unlikely that a 2/3 vote of each house to agree to override the president’s veto in order for the bill to be enacted into law could actually happen.

    So it’s unlikely, but not impossible.

    There would be a lot of screaming, but I figure at least 75% would obey law, sure some would cache a few.

    Then a few high profile raids on gun owners would happen, followed by a amnesty that would lead to many more turning them in.

    Could we get the much talked about three percent?

    I have no idea, but even one percent is equal to all Federal, State, Local, and Military in the US.

    We will have to see what happens! ;-)

    Well at least it’s motivational for the fear types.

    :yahoo:

    #64189
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    RobRoy
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    Didn’t California try this crap with SKS rifles and got little to no response? How about the loser thugs pols up in the Northeast and their various bans?

    I see one problem with these progtard bans they literally forget that a vast portion of their voting base has these weapons. Granted that kook in the GA governors’ race knew enough to distinguish between carbines which white conservatives might own versus semi-auto Glocks which her constituency venerates as religous totems of power when asked about gun banning, but white libtards are especially prone to weapons dumfuckery.

    #64191
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    BrigandActual
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    I saw the nuke comment yesterday.

    Stupid.

    I get that it’s hyperbole to show disparity of capability, but it’s dtill a stupid thing to say. The underlying point shouldn’t be forgotten, though. This group believes they are better than us by every measure, and are perfectly willing to bring as much force to the table as they think will create the society they want.

    Trouble is that these people are overconfident. They aren’t talking about some country 5,000 miles away. They have to live here too, and that kind of language has consequences that are much harder to hide from.

    "Man is still the first weapon of war" - Field Marshal Montgomery

    Matt B - VA

    #64192
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    GreenTip
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    I read this last night. Figured it would go up. Guy is a fool. So are a lot of the population that votes. Anything can happen in DC with politicians. Hypothetically in the future, nobody will fault you if crazy laws pass and you:

    1. Turn your guns in.
    2. Hide them.
    3. Fight when they show up to seize them at your door step.
    4. Fight a dirty insurgency.

    Those are your choices. Accept one and plan accordingly and walk that path. Don’t shove your head in the sand and think you never will have to make a choice. But don’t talk shit.

    S/GreenTip

    #64194
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    gramma
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    From earlier this year:

    Alison Aires, thanks for sharing

    #64196
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    wildbill
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    “If there must be trouble, let it be in my day, that my child may have peace” Thomas Paine

    Things never change and people never learn.

    Western North Carolina ― LRMC-1 Sept. 2017, CQBC May 2017, DCH March 2017, RS & CTT October. 2016, CTT 1511, LN 1

    “We don't rise to the level of our expectations, we fall to the level of our training.” ― Archilochos

    “I do believe that, where there is only a choice between cowardice and violence, I would advise violence..." - Gandhi

    #64197
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    gatlinggun
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    Interesting multi-part post at Survivalblog:

    https://survivalblog.com/guest-post-asymmetrical-warfare-4gw-militia-groups-americas-domestic-viet-cong-part-1/

    Take from it what you will.

    When the government's boot is on your throat, whether it is a left boot or a right boot is of no consequence.

    CTT 08/15

    #64199
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    First Sergeant
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    I saw the nuke comment yesterday.

    Stupid.

    I get that it’s hyperbole to show disparity of capability, but it’s dtill a stupid thing to say. The underlying point shouldn’t be forgotten, though. This group believes they are better than us by every measure, and are perfectly willing to bring as much force to the table as they think will create the society they want.

    Trouble is that these people are overconfident. They aren’t talking about some country 5,000 miles away. They have to live here too, and that kind of language has consequences that are much harder to hide from.

    And that is the point right there.

    I haven’t forgotten about you. ;-)

    FILO
    Signal out, can you identify.
    Je ne regrette rien...
    Klagt Nicht, Kämpft

    #64230
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    First Sergeant
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    This is what they believe. Plan accordingly.

    FILO
    Signal out, can you identify.
    Je ne regrette rien...
    Klagt Nicht, Kämpft

    #64237
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    BrigandActual
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    I thought this was a relevant read.

    The 2nd Amendment is Obsolete, Says Congressman Who Wants To Nuke Omaha

    "Man is still the first weapon of war" - Field Marshal Montgomery

    Matt B - VA

    #64240
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    Hessian
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    I thought this was a relevant read.

    Obsolete huh?

    Pulled this right from solider system’s website Their source (https://ndiastorage.blob.core.usgovcloudapi.net/ndia/2015/smallarms/1735)

    I believe point 1 and 8 are very applicable.

    9 Known Truths
    General Thoughts on Modern Warfare and Small Arms Technology

    1 The asymmetric threat, unencumbered by “western” doctrine and politics, exploits our capability gaps faster than we can react within our cumbersome infrastructure

    8 Training is paramount to effectiveness BUT advanced hardware enables advanced training and employment.

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